geological survey

The money pit?

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One can only wonder what would have happened if young Daniel McGinnis had chosen to go exploring somewhere else on that fateful day in the summer of 1795. If he had, perhaps nobody else would have walked the woods on the eastern end of Oak Island for the next ten years. In that time, the clearing McGinnis found might have been reclaimed completely by the woods. In a forest, the thirteen foot-wide depression in the ground might never have been noticed. Thick, leafy branches might have obscured the old tackle block hanging from a branch directly over the pit. Without these markers, there would have been nothing to indicate that this was the work of man. And there might have never been the two-hundred year long treasure hunt that cost several fortunes and many lives.

But McGinnis did see the clearing and the depression and the tackle block. Visions of pirate treasure did fill his head. He did return later with two friends, John Smith, age 19, and Anthony Vaughan, age 16. And together, with picks and shovels, they did start perhaps the most famous treasure hunt of modern times.

Undoubtedly, the three must have thought they were on the verge of discovering the treasure of Captain William Kidd. Stories that the captain had buried a treasure hoard on an island "east of Boston" had been circulating since the 1600's. Legend had it that a dying sailor in the New England Colonies confessed to being a part of Kidd's notorious crew, but he never named an exact location for the hidden booty.

The island McGinnis, Smith and Vaughan were on was one of 300 small isles in the Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia, Canada. It was peanut-shaped and about three-quarters of a mile long and 1,000 feet wide.

Cutting away the smaller trees, the three young men started digging in the depression. After two feet they hit a floor of carefully laid flagstones. This type of slate was not found on the island and the group figured it had been brought there from about two miles north. Below the stones they saw that they were digging down a shaft that had been refilled. The walls of the shaft were scored with the marks of pick axes, more evidence that this structure was the work of men.

At the ten foot level they hit wood. At first the group figured they'd hit a treasure chest, but quickly realized that they had found a platform of oaken logs sunk into the sides of the shaft. Pulling up the logs they discovered a two-foot depression and more of the shaft. Continuing to dig, they finally reached a depth of twenty-five feet. At that depth they decided they could not continue without more help and better planning. Covering the pit over, they left. One thing the three were sure of, though, was that something must be at the bottom of the pit. They concluded that nobody would have gone to the trouble of digging a shaft deeper than 25 feet unless he had something very valuable to hide.

Nineteenth Century Excavations

Not much more was done with the pit until around 1802. While stories differ, it seems likely that the three spent the previous years searching for a financial backer to provide assistance for a more sophisticated dig. Simeon Lynds visited the money pit that year, was impressed by the story, and formed a company to support the excavation.

The work was started in the summer of 1803. After cleaning out the old pit, the crew started digging downward. Stories have it that they struck another oak platform at 30 feet below the surface. As they continued to dig they found something every ten feet: charcoal, putty, stones or more log platforms. Finally, at the 80 or 90 foot level, depending on which historical account you read, a flat stone, three feet long and one foot wide, with strange letters and figures cut into it, was found. At 93 feet deep, the floor of the pit began to turn into soft mud. Before the end of that day the crew probed the bottom of the shaft with a crowbar hoping to find something. They hit a barrier as wide and as long as the shaft. The group speculated that they'd finally reached the treasure vault and went to bed with the expectations that tomorrow a fortune would be theirs.

Returning the next day, the crew was shocked to find that overnight the pit had filled with 60 feet of water. Bailing was useless. As soon as water was removed from the pit, more flowed in to take its place. An attempt was made to dig another shaft nearby and get at the treasure by running a tunnel underneath the pit, but the new shaft flooded as soon as the tunnel got close to its objective.

Another attempt to find the treasure wasn't made until 1849. A new corporation was formed to finance the dig. This group wasn't much more successful, running into the same flooding problems that occurred back in 1802. They did manage to use a drill to probe what was below the money pit floor. A platform was constructed in the shaft just above the water level and the drill operated from there. The drill seemed to bore through levels of oak, spruce and clay. One sample recovered what appeared to be several links of chain made of gold.

While the drilling was going on, someone noticed that the water in the pit was salty and rose and fell with the tide. This led to speculation that the builders of the pit had conceived a clever trap designed to flood the pit with water if someone got to close too the treasure.

The existence of the flood trap was confirmed by the discovery that the beach of Smith's Cove, located some 500 feet away from the money pit, was artificial. Examination showed that the original clay of the cove had been dug away and in its place laid round beach stones, covered by four or five inches of dead eel grass, which was covered by coconut fiber two inches thick and finally the sand of the beach. At the bottom of all this were five box drains that apparently merged somewhere well back from the coast into a single tunnel that ran the distance to the money pit. The system was apparently designed so that the filtering action of the coconut fiber and the eel grass would ensure the drains would never be clogged by sand or gravel from the beach. It worked well.

Attempts were made to put the flood trap out of business by building a cofferdam around the cove to by holding the tides back. Later, pits were dug to intersect and plug the tunnel on its route to the money pit. These failed, and this try at reaching the treasure was given up in 1851 when the money ran out.

The next attempt in 1861 cost the first human life. The searchers tried to pump out the money pit using the steam engine-powered pumps. A boiler burst and one worker was scalded to death while others were injured. Further fatalities were barely avoided when the money pit's bottom, weakened by attempts to get at the treasure by digging up underneath from other shafts, collapsed. If there were any treasure chests they were probably carried much deeper by this crash. This dig did succeed in discovering where the flood tunnel entered the money pit, but there was still no way to turn off the water. By 1864 these searchers were also out of money.

In 1866, 1893, 1909, 1931 and 1936 additional excavations were started. Extreme methods were used including setting dynamite charges to destroy the flood tunnel, building a dam to keep the water out of Smith's Cove, and bringing in a crane with an excavation bucket. None of these approaches recovered a single coin while costing the backers a small fortune and one worker his life. One of these efforts did manage to block off the flood tunnel from Smith's Cove, only to discover more water was pouring in from the opposite direction via a natural or man-made route from the south shore. Drilling also indicated that there might be some kind of cement vault at the 153-foot level. By this time the south end of the island was full of old shafts, though, and it was increasingly hard to tell were the original money pit was located. Searchers often ran out of money just trying to figure out where the old shaft had been.

Modern Excavations

In 1959 Robert Restall, a former daredevil motorcyclist, took up the challenge with the help of his 18-year-old son. By then the Smith Cove's flood tunnel had become unblocked and Restall made it his first order of business to seal it off. He had sunk a shaft to the depth of 27 feet near Smith's Cove when tragedy struck. His son found him laying at the bottom of the pit in muddy water. Climbing down to help his father, the boy suddenly fell off the ladder and lay next to him. Kal Graseser, Restall's partner, and workers Cyril Hiltz and Andy DeMont climbed down to assist, but also collapsed before reaching the bottom. Edward White, a visiting fireman from Buffalo, New York, immediately suspected carbon monoxide poisoning from the exhaust of a nearby gasoline pump and descended the pit with a rope tied around his waist. He was able to rescue DeMont, but the others died. In one day Oak Island mystery claimed four more lives.

In 1965 Robert Dunfield tried to apply modern open pit mining methods to the treasure hunt. Using a 70-ton digging crane he dug a hole at the original pit site 140 feet deep and 100 feet in diameter. The dirt was carefully sifted for any treasure, but only a few pieces of porcelain dishware were found. Heavy rains dragged the work out for months and Dunfield ran out of money. The pit, and its mystery designer, had won again.

The Money Pit today. (Courtesy of Bill Milstead)

In 1970 the Triton Alliance was formed to continue looking for the treasure. Legal battles between owners of different portions of the island resulted in slow progress. A number of holes were drilled in an attempt to locate the treasure and better understand the geological nature of the island, but no gold was recovered. Little work has been done in the area of the money pit itself as the soil is unstable. Often caverns, thought to be natural, have been found beneath the island. A video camera lowered down one borehole into one of these spaces recorded an image that looked like chests and a human hand severed at the wrist. The quality of the images was so poor, though, that positive identification was impossible.

Triton brought the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute in to survey the island in 1995 and render an opinion on whether there is something valuable at the bottom of the pit. While their report is confidential, people who have seen it say that its conclusions are "not discouraging." Currently little work is being done on the island while disputes between the owners of Triton are being settled.

In addition to the money pit the rest of the island seems to be loaded with old stone markers of various types. The most peculiar of these are 6 boulders that seem to be laid out in the shape of a cross that is almost 900 feet long. Some wild speculation based on the cross suggest that Oak Island might be home to the long missing Holy Grail, but there is no real solid evidence to support this idea.

Possible Culprits

So, who built the money pit? And did they really put some kind of treasure down there? Was it Captain Kidd? Despite the legends it seem unlikely that Captain William Kidd ever had the chance to bury a treasure on Oak Island. He spent little time near Nova Scotia and certainly not enough to construct the money pit. Kidd did bury a cache of booty on Gardener's Island near the eastern end of Long Island Sound, but it was quickly seized by the Governor of New York.

Blackbeard, who possessed perhaps the most notorious reputation of all pirates, has sometimes been mentioned in conjunction with Oak Island, but only because he once boasted he had an underground cache for his treasure, "where none but Satan and myself can find it." Certainly many of the Oak Island treasure hunters would agree that this sounds like the money pit, but the truth is there isn't any evidence that Blackbeard conducted any operations north of Delaware.

In fact, it seems very unlikely that any pirate could be responsible for such a complex labyrinth as the pit. Pirates buried treasure because it offered a quick way to hide and recover their goods. A digging operation that must have taken several months just doesn't seem their style.

George Bates, a land surveyor in Nova Scotia, suggested that pirates had indeed built structures on Oak Island, but not for the purpose of hiding treasure. Bate's idea was that there was enough pirate activity between 1650 and 1750 off the coast of Nova Scotia to warrant several pirate groups getting together and building a dry dock to maintain their ships. To do this they sailed their vessels into Smith's Cove and built a cofferdam to seal the tiny bay off from the ocean. The flood tunnel was used to then drain the cove and leave the ship high and dry. The water flooded down the tunnel into a large natural cave underneath the island. A windmill located on top of the money pit extracted the water so the cove could again be drained for the next ship.

The weakness of Bates argument is that located on the other side of Nova Scotia, only a hundred miles away, is the Bay of Fundy. The tides in the bay drop at least 30 feet each day making it a huge natural dry dock. Why would the pirates duplicate what nature already provided?

Speaking of nature, is it possible that the money pit is a natural phenomena, not a cleverly designed vault? Certainly there are natural caves under Oak Island and the depression found by McGinnis could have been a sink hole. Unless all early accounts are completely incorrect the descriptions of the platforms carefully placed at 10-foot intervals seem to ensure that at least part of the structure is man-made.

Some theories suggest that the structures built on Oak Island may have been hundreds, perhaps even thousand of years old when they were discovered in 1795. They may have been built by Vikings visiting the New World, or by the native Micmac people who lived in the region before the Europeans appeared. Perhaps they were built by an advanced civilization that we know nothing about. Indeed the flood tunnel trap built into the pit in some ways reminds one of the false doors and granite plugs found in Egyptian tombs to prevent grave robbing.

If any of the above theories were true why did McGinnis discover the pit in the heart of a clearing? The trees around the money pit must have been cut when it was constructed. Given the rate oak trees grow, that meant someone had built the pit not more than fifty years before McGinnis stumbled across it.

Who would have hidden a treasure between 1745 and 1795? William Crooker, author of several books on the Oak Island mystery, suggests that the pit was built as a part of plot by King George III of England and several of his close advisors. On August 12, 1762, British forces captured the city of Havana, Cuba, from the Spanish. Havana was a rich, important city where much of the gold from the New World was shipped back to Spain. Two shiploads of the captured booty, Crooker suggests, was taken by the Earl of Albemarle to Oak Island. Previously the conspirators had arranged for military engineers to come to the island and build what they thought was a secret ammo dump complete with flood tunnels. Albemarle arrived with the treasure in sealed boxes. The treasure was placed in the pit, the pit was closed, and the engineers departed still thinking they had built an ammo dump.

Albemarle returned to England with the idea of retrieving the treasure later. Something, perhaps the madness that afflicted King George toward the end of his life, prevented getting the booty and it was forgotten about.

Crooker's theory raises another possibility, though. Suppose there is no treasure at all and the pit is simply an old ammo dump? We will only find out for sure when someone comes along who is clever enough, and rich enough, to beat the designer of the money pit and make a thorough investigation of what lies at the bottom.

The money pit?
Pooo, ignore the complainers. It was an interesting read at any rate, and entertaining enough to make me forget there was no real question. Thanks for the rare glimpse of history!
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Reply:Next time cut and paste "War and Peace" it would be shorter.

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I didn't read this crap, don't think anyone else will either.
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Reply:i think you put your paper in the wrong place, submit it to university to apply for the doctorate degree.

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Have you ever wondered why halliurton/parsons/bechtel/kel... won projects in Iraq, bosnia and vietnam?

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Halliburton/Kellog were awarded jobs in both iraq wars, bosnia (clinton) vietnam without bidding. I would not have worked on the projects along with the rest of the civilians if halliburton would not have been "GIVEN" them. REAL multi-phase projects require surface, route , feasibility, geological, envrionmental SURVEYS that take 2 to 5 years. After a war, the project starts NOW. The company handling the project receives data such as troop locations, equipment depots, mine field locations, locations for training, air strips, etc. You can NOT turn that data over to a company like Technip. Regarding profiteering ? probably. Same thing happend in Bosnia - Clinton era....and do not forget the 7 billion dollar deal Clinton made between the saudis and boeing but I never hear anything about that...then you have LBJ who owned 55 percent of colt fire arms...they built parts for small arms used in Vietnam...

Have you ever wondered why halliurton/parsons/bechtel/kel... won projects in Iraq, bosnia and vietnam?
Not trying to be cavalier but I will answer your question this way. "Such as it has been, it shall always be". Is it right? No. But that seems to be the new golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules. Answer to this? Class warfare? I don't think so. Don't have a solution. :(
Reply:they are all bush croonies
Reply:It seems that corporations, like individuals have security clearance. If all war time contracts had to go through the bidding process, there would be even more failure and wasted time and money. Look at government highway work!

Pork, pork %26amp; more pork%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;

All our %26lt;western Montana%26gt; new section of interstate are like washboard within a year.
Reply:I felt it was part of the industrial/military complex, they built it, the army blows it up, they rebuilt it

Plz help with these medical questions? need it asap practice questions 4 exams please help?

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. An agent that causes a disease is called a(n)

A cholera. B copepod.

C epidemic. D pathogen.

2. Filtering contaminated water through a sari is

A an ineffective way to reduce cases of cholera.

B the best way to prevent the spread of cholera.

C a low-tech solution to reducing cases of cholera.

D another factor that causes cholera to spread rapidly.

3. All of the following should be researched in studying the epidemiology of waterborne diseases except the

A genomes of the pathogens.

B habitat of pathogens.

C food chain of the pathogens.

D environmental factors that affect pathogens.

4. All the genetic material contained in an individual or a species is called its

A epidemiology. B genome.

C DNA fingerprint. D genetic code.

5. One of the most important tools in preventing the spread of disease is

A computer modeling. B DNA fingerprinting.

C genetic engineering. D giving vaccinations.

6. computer modeling : epidemiology ::

A genetics : DNA fingerprinting

B cloning : biotechnology

C genome : vaccination

D human health : disease prevention

7. Which of the following terms is used to refer to a piece of equipment made for a specific use?

A process B cure

C device D treatment

8. Which of the following is least likely to help humans live longer?

A epidemiology B medicine

C genetics D DNA fingerprinting

9. knowledge of biology : human potential ::

A assistive technologies : everyday lives

B human potential : epidemiology

C populations : disease outbreaks

D genomes : genetics

10. The technology of changing the genetic material of a living cell is called

A biometrics. B genetic engineering.

C genetics. D DNA fingerprinting.

11. Planting Bt corn helps farmers decrease the use of

A fertilizers. B herbicides.

C pesticides. D cultivators.

12. All of the following are known advantages of planting Bt corn except it

A adds some bacterial genes to food supplies.

B lowers a farmer’s cost of production.

C improves a farmer’s crop yield.

D reduces chemical contaminants in the environment.

13. The application of a biological structure or process to solve design problems is called

A adaptation. B biomimetics.

C cloning. D decoding.

14. Which of these biotechnologies has the potential to repair tissues inside the body?

A biometrics B biomimetics

C epidemiology D nanotechnology

15. clam shell formation : ceramics ::

A CAT scanning : modeling fossils

B strong fabrics : spider silk

C spider silk : strong fabrics

D modeling fossils : CAT scanning

16. The analysis of biological traits to identify people is called

A arithmetics. B biometrics.

C genetics. D statistics.

17. Which of the following traits of an individual would be most useful for identifying a victim in a forensic investigation?

A eye color B hair color

C blood type D DNA fingerprint

18. Which of the following qualities do fingerprints and DNA fingerprints have in common?

A ease of use in an investigation

B part of an extensive FBI database

C refer to traits of the human hand

D unique to an individual

19. The ethical concerns about biotechnology must be addressed by

A scientists only. B societies only.

C both individuals and scientists. D both individuals and societies.

20. All of the following biotechnologies are considered by some to be unethical except

A biomimetic products. B biometrics data bases.

C human stem cell research. D genetically modified foods.

21. Which of the following would be an unethical use of biometric data and methods?

A linking criminals to crime scenes

B eliminating innocent people from a list of criminal suspects

C excluding people with certain genes from getting jobs

D protecting citizens from bioterrorism

22. Which of the following is considered to be one of the most important applications of biology?

A biometrics B genetic engineering

C environmental science D assistive technologies

23. In order to make wise decisions about the use of natural resources, citizens will need to have a better understanding of

A biomimetics. B genetics.

C environmental science. D genetic engineering.

24. ecology : environmental science ::

A biomolecules : strong glues B genetics : genetic engineering

C forensics : biometrics D spider silk : clam shells

25. What do the initials GIS stand for?

A geological inference standard B genetic improvement survey

C geographic information system D global investigation society

26. Satellite tagging is a technology that is most likely to be used in

A assisting the disabled. B conservation of wildlife.

C developing maps of the world. D tracking the spread of disease.

27. Each of the following is a part of a GIS program except

A access to data from different sources.

B computer mapping.

C environmental databases.

D genetic analysis tools.

Plz help with these medical questions? need it asap practice questions 4 exams please help?
How about studying and finding the answers on your own? You won't make a very decent doctor, nurse, med tech, etc., if you can't pass your exams without the aid of the Yahoo community......

Where is heaven and hell?

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Can someone please explain to me exactly where heaven and hell is? No geological surveys have turned up any proof of hell below us. NASA has traveled extreme distances in space and still no proof of heaven. Where are these places? another dimension?

Where is heaven and hell?
Both are in the imaginations of deluded morons.
Reply:Heaven and hell are mythological places which exist only as ideas in the mind. They have no actual physical locations. They aren't anywhere.
Reply:in your imagination
Reply:heaven and hell are a state of being

heaven is being wiht God forever

and hell is being away from God forever
Reply:you Can't see it. The only way your going to know is when it's your time. For now you have to belive.
Reply:I don't know about heaven.

But hell is a packed shop on a hot summers day with not AC
Reply:Cleveland.
Reply:You are 16, but you don't know how long you are to live!
Reply:I believe heaven and hell are state of minds.

I think that heaven is our paradise, that we find while we are still alive on this earth. It's a moment in time, and how we feel for that moment. If that moment is found than it lasts forever.

With Hell, if we believe we're hell-bound, then we create our own hell, and take ourselves there. It's basically like painting a picture and hopping inside it.

Haha, it's hard to explain, but at least I know what I'm talking about.
Reply:well they wouldnt exist in our universe like a spiritual one. i dont know hopefully i'll have to wait a long time to find out?
Reply:Haha, it seems as though nobody takes these questions seriously. I think that another dimension. . another place we can't even fathom or relate to anything else in this world. I don't think humans can comprehend the feeling of eternity or even what is in store for us.

Sometimes, when you look at the sky, you get this feeling of wondering. . like, what REALLY is going to happen to me?
Reply:dont worry about that. just worry about which one u'll end up in.
Reply:in the minds of believers, and in that great work of fiction known as the bible.
Reply:Heaven is where the throne of God is right now. Hell is separation from God. Those that do not believe or follow God are in Hell now but do not realize it as they have been sent delusions
Reply:heaven is up in the clouds and hell id underground with the devil.
Reply:"Heaven and hell are states of mind. We experience heaven when we are in harmony with the Life that surrounds us.

Hell is a state of mind that we experience when we don't understand why something unpleasant is happening to us. We can choose to create our own heaven or hell on Earth, and take our beliefs with us when we go through the transition the world calls death to the next plane of existence."

http://www.religiousscience.org/ucrs_sit...
Reply:In the hearts and minds of mankind
Reply:Hell is my kitchen at the moment. 3 kids playing with paint and water.

You are very funny. It's what you want to believe. How can anyone really know? Think about it. Everyone and I mean from the local priest to the local women's meeting have their own opinion. That's good, you need to develop your own. Good luck.
Reply:It's a nightclub just off the promenade in Blackpool. I wouldn't recommend it though, unless you like teenage girls.
Reply:Heaven is starbucks :)

Hell is Michigan
Reply:Eze 37:19 Then say to them, This is what the Lord has said: See, I am taking the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel who are in his company; and I will put it on the stick of Judah and make them one stick, and they will be one in my hand.

Eze 37:20 And the sticks with your writing on them will be in your hand before their eyes.

Eze 37:21 And say to them, These are the words of the Lord: See, I am taking the children of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and will get them together on every side, and take them into their land:

Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king over them all: and they will no longer be two nations, and will no longer be parted into two kingdoms:

Eze 37:23 And they will no longer make themselves unclean with their images or with their hated things or with any of their sins: but I will give them salvation from all their turning away in which they have done evil, and will make them clean; and they will be to me a people, and I will be to them a God.

Eze 37:24 And my servant David will be king over them; and they will all have one keeper: and they will be guided by my orders and will keep my rules and do them.

Eze 37:25 And they will be living in the land which I gave to Jacob, my servant, in which your fathers were living; and they will go on living there, they and their children and their children's children, for ever: and David, my servant, will be their ruler for ever.

Eze 37:26 And I will make an agreement of peace with them: it will be an eternal agreement with them: and I will have mercy on them and make their numbers great, and will put my holy place among them for ever.

Eze 37:27 And my House will be over them; and I will be to them a God, and they will be to me a people.

Eze 37:28 And the nations will be certain that I who make Israel holy am the Lord, when my holy place is among them for ever.
Reply:In the imagiation of the religious zealots.
Reply:Hell, it's a town in Michigan
Reply:heaven is in the spearmint rhino

hell is in my local pub

:)
Reply:You can't plot Spiritual places.
Reply:The US state of Maine is heaven and Alabama is hell,
Reply:try to read DIVINA COMEDIA
Reply:No one knows for sure of course, and I have asked myself that same question. I believe the answer is : absolutely heaven is in another dimension. It is a spiritual dimension. Many places in the Bible, people have documented their encounters with God saying that they were "taken IN THE SPIRIT before the throne of God" and document what they saw there. It is important to note that 95% of the Bible prophecy has come true exactly as predicted, therefore these accounts can be taken seriously because they were written down by the same people who predicted world events (by the power of God) many hundreds of years in advance. The remaining 5% of prophecy is YET to be fulfilled. But that doesn't answer your question...The most important thing of course is Faith. Faith as some people might think is not "blind" but is based on a VERY REAL, UNDENIABLE encounter with God. The best part is, if you want to know for sure if God exists, all you have to do is ask. "God if you are real please show yourself to me in a way that I cannot deny that it is you". And He will, guaranteed. As a side note, check out the website ChristianAnswers.net I think you will find good answers to this and many other great questions.

Take care.
Reply:Hotel California.
Reply:The bible says that hell is indeed below us. There are 3 heavens. The first heaven is where the birds fly, the second is the cosmos and the third heaven is outside of creation where God dwells. Some have suggested that there may be 3 levels of hell as well.
Reply:Right here, right now

Do You Think This Is Another Compelling Reason for Universal Health Care?

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AMA issues first report card on health insurers

"Physicians are spending 14 percent of their total revenue to simply obtain what they've earned,"

".........annual $210 billion in wasted administrative claims processing costs,........."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_o...

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Which of course means, that is passed on to you, the consumer.

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Please, no partisan bickering, for every example thrown out, the opposite can be found.

I want to hear reasons why universal health care will work or not.

keep in mind, departments of our government that are not politicized seem to work pretty well.

Postal service (largest volume in the world)

National Geological Survey (our oil industry uses them, plus they make some of the best maps in the world)

FEMA before it was politicized and outsourced. (is there a need to go into how they have failed us?)

Weather service (very dependable, very good, while not always being right, but close enough)

Peace

Jim

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Do You Think This Is Another Compelling Reason for Universal Health Care?
I watched the movie SICKO, and while I'm sure this movie is biased, it made me long for universal health care, where you could just walk in to a clinic and get seen and then get your prescriptions filled for nothing or next to nothing.

The powers that be in this country would never allow true universal health care to happen. First, we would have to do away with the insurance companies that employ millions of Americans. Their lobbyists are keeping that from happening. And then you have the AMA, probably one of the strongest lobbying groups in the country. They are dead set against universal health care. They don't want to become government employees. Sadly in today's world, doctors are next to God in this country.

I'm currently trying to decide which Medicare Pt.D program to go with as I approach my 65th birthday. I'm an RN, and it's very confusing to me. I wonder how other people my age even begin to pick a plan. You have over 40 different plans, and none of them sound really good. Yet, George Bush is so proud of himself for making prescription drug coverage "available" to seniors.

I think we should scrap the insurance companies. We could find some other place for the people to work who are expert at denying you the tests and treatments you need.

I don't think McCain has a clue. At least Obama is a step in the right direction. He's the one Michael Moore has endorsed.

ofa
Reply:Universal Health Care does not work. Yes, everyone has insurance. Yes, everyone has healthcare. Yes, everyone's taxes go up to pay for it. (fact people, fact, there is no other way to pay for it). But, the quality goes down, there are less specialists because it does not pay to go for the extra schooling, this means less advances in medicine, and you wind up waiting on lists to receive care. Canada now has an actual commission just to address waiting times for health care. Canadians are crossing the border to get healthcare because of wait times and because of quality. Further, it is certainly not the time to spend trillions on this and raise taxes with a floundering economy.
Reply:In a nutshell, it all depends on who runs the programs.

The way that the VA is being run is reason enough for me to be leery of government run health care. But, you are right about programs that are run effectively and within budget.

It will be very difficult to transition, knowing how much money people have invested in becoming doctors. So that would be factored in, making it hard to keep politics out of the equation. Many doctors make up the "who's who" in the US and they have influence.These are just a couple of thoughts.

peace.
Reply:...sounds like a compelling reason for insurance reform...

...the "non-political" organizations you list are all in the business of gathering, processing and distributing...whether it be information or disaster relief assets...

...Do I trust the government to deliver my mail? Yes...

...Do I trust the government to analyze and prioritize my mail....make judgments on which letters are important...which bills should be paid first...and so on....Obviously not...

...The primary reason people scream for government run health care is to relieve the cost and adminstrative burden...it has nothing to do with the primary function....CARE.

...Instead, why not ADDRESS those costs so that health care providers can focus on the care aspect...?
Reply:I've seen the cost of government ran health care and the administrative costs are double the 14% that the insurance companies spend on process claims. On top of that you end up with rotten employees that know they can't be fired and you watch your health care go right into the sewer. Look at any government hospital or the VA and that should ward you off this folly for good.
Reply:Because Medi-care works SO well??? You know... the currently in place government run Health Care that MUST be subsidised by private insurance....

How about we live FREE! And you guys complain about wire taps to known terrorists over seas... yet... no problem allowing government to take over your whole physical/mental well being. Well thought out..... applause!

BTW Jim.... do you think the government will pay those doctors enough to cover their expenses? Not on your life... then what happens? People don;t find it worth going into medicine.... then what happens????
Reply:Another example among those you've cited is the American highway system. It's as marvelous as the Great Wall of China or the Egyptian Pyramids. We all chip in to pay for it at the pump. Painless isn’t it? I rather image national medicine would be much the same.
Reply:It is a scientific face that anybody with five or more brain cells wants Universal Health Care.

The Germans have had it since the late 1800's and it is amazing.

Americans do not travel enough. Because we do not travel our politicians are not yet in jail!
Reply:I know exactly what you mean which makes me wonder whether the failures in all good policies are due to corruption or incompetence or both by our various department officials.
Reply:No, I fail to see how having doctors fill out paper work for government bureaucrats is going to be any more efficient use of their time than filling out paper work for insurance companies.

I don't know what you mean by "politicized" government agency. They are all government agencies and as such are political organisms. The Postal service is a classic example of government waste and inefficiency. I've heard of going "postal" a reference to the craziness of the postal service. You never hear about going UPS or FEDEX.

The fact that FEMA is ineffective and wasteful is just another example of government waste and inefficiency. There is nothing to indicate that a government run health care system would be any different from FEMA or the postal service. Other than we would be relying on it to provide long lines for us to wait in for medical attention.
Reply:If you really want to see inefficiency and waste wait until the government steps in to help. How do you expect adding more government regulation and red tape to help in any way? If we really wanted to see lower medical costs the first thing we need to do is penalize claimants and lawyers that bring frivolous lawsuits. Then go after the insurance companies who drive up prices through their practices.

By the way Emal are you talking about the same highway system that hires 7 people to get one that actually does the work. Imagine how much less it would cost if the highway workers were all responcible the way we are at our jobs.

By the way the 7 and 1 figure I gave refers to the fact that every single time I pass a highway work zone if any work is being done at all only 1 person in 7 actually seems to be working at any given time. But most of the time all I see is idle machines and one guy sitting in the truck looking at the work to be done.

Blue is obviously not telling the whole story since everyone knows that hospitals are required by law to treat any injured person that comes in the door. How do you think our system is being destroyed by illegals getting free care at the hospitals?
Reply:I know so many working people who can't afford to go to the doctor. When I was a full time cashier at Wal -Mart I fell and broke my knee cap in their parking lot several years ago . Don't worry I didn't sue them because I fell getting off work. I tripped -an accident on a hot day and I was tired.

Didn't know that it was broken -went to work the next day and it swelled up -I was in terrible pain -had to go home -they fired me for leaving.

called the doctor -didn't do any good because I did not (and could not afford ) health ins. Still broken to this day and sometimes I get arthritis in it so bad that I CAN'T WALK%26gt; I am a widow and have had a hard time of it since then.

Just one story in a million. Our taxes should go back to people in need. My father paid for a life time -never saw any back in his hand to help -my husband paid in a life time -never saw a dime back either I paid -my mother paid . I know taxes pay for police -firemen (which are in my family as well )military etc. So unless you believe that the common working people are expendable what do you suggest that we the common working people do when we can not afford to go to the doctor (or hospital)? I know this is a Bible quote -But right now our government's feet are made of clay.

Just speaking out for the humane treatment for American citizens.
Reply:I don't have the answers for how to make it work. Other countries have universal health, so I KNOW we can, too. I have good health insurance. However, let me tell you a lesson my dad used to teach me:

Say you work for a unionized company which has pensions as part of the contract. For 30 years you voted on contract agreements but never cared what benefits were given to the retirees. Never fought for retiree benefits. Cared ONLY about what YOU could receive in the here and now. Over the years you've aged, and tired. You cannot keep up the pace with the younger folks and your job is in jeopardy. So you decide you better retire. But you can't because the pension is too little to live on. You petition the union to work toward larger pensions but the majority of the folks at the company are younger.........and they only care about the here and now and what THEY can get.

I see the same situation with my health care coverage. Right now....I have coverage. But what happens if I lose that coverage? What happens if, years from now when I want to retire because I've aged and I'm tired, I cannot because my company does not cover retires and I cannot afford to buy health insurance. I NEED the government to help me. I NEED affordable health insuance subsidized by my government. So I petition "the people" and ask them to write their congress representatives.......but "the people" don't care.....they are more interested in what THEY need.

Sorry for the diatribe. I work in the medical field and I have yet to meet a doctor who supports universal health insurance. And very few of my co-workers support it. But I believe it is due to fear and propaganda. When I explain it the way I see it, some have changed their views. Some have not.
Reply:To answer your question, just look north.

There is a reason that well-off Canadians come to the US for their healthcare. There is a reason that Canadian doctors try to get jobs in the US before they do in Canada.

The US postal service is nearly bankrupt. I agree that they are one of the best run gov't agencies.. but they are still in trouble. Only junk mail keeps them in business. The private sector does it better.

The USGS does a pretty good job, yes, but that is an area where privatization wouldn't allow them to be as thorough as that can be while being funded by tax dollars.

FEMA is absolutely useless, except for their dangerousness.... just look to the hurricane Katrina disaster as the only example you need. FEMA is an agency that scares the crap out of me.. did you know that with an executive order FEMA can declare martial law upon the entire country? Look it up, you'll see.

The weather service is not bad, but private weather services are just as good. That's something that we need, to a point, since it affects all of us every day. Private companies could probably do it better, but there is no profit motive.

For health care, the answer is likely somewhere in the middle. Expanding free clinics for the 'needy' would be a good thing, as most basic care isn't very expensive. Relaxing regulations so that many procedures that now are required to be performed by MD's can be performed by lesser-trained but still highly capable RN's would save more money, and the whole malpractice thing is out of control. But forcing state health care down everyone's throats? Opens up too many cans of worms.

The government does pretty much everything badly %26amp; inefficiently.
Reply:Sounds like the first faltering steps towards socialism. Watch out they don't burn you at the stake.
Reply:No.

It means gov't policy has upset the balance by subsidizing employer health care via tax benefits.

So now, no one pays their own bill, and expects someone else to pay it. That's what's gone wrong.

In the old days, people paid their own bills and prices were reasonable, because they had to be. There weren't 18 bizillion insurance companies to try and collect from, each with a different form. The only insurance people had was for catastrophic illness.

Universal health care will result in only 1 thing. Rationing. When a service is made free to use, demand will skyrocket beyond supply.

And I invite you to look at Veteran's Health Care and public education in this country. Any time the gov't has a monopoly, service sucks. It's only after the rise of Fed Ex and UPS that the Postal Service improved due to competition. the only reason it still survives is that gov't prohibits competition for regular mail.

Want another example. The cable company. Granted monopoly status by your city or county. You watch, if we can ever get a 3rd competitor for Tv and internet, suddenly cable will get a whole lot better and cheaper.

Still another example. Telephone service. Back when AT%26amp;T was a monopoly, you had to buy the phone from them, and service. You paid what they said and that was it. Now 25 years after the breakup, there has been wild improvements in telephone service, including long distance rapidly becoming free to use. Right now I pay 3.9 cents per minute with no monthly fee or minimum usage requirements on a 3rd party long distance company. Many just pay a small monthly fee and get all the long distance you can eat. A far cry from when I was young. I remember calling my grandma long distance and the rate was 35 cents at off peak time for 3 minutes.

Reviews

Did you knew Polar Bears could die!! but you could make the diference today, just enter to this link and vote?

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We still have time to do something!

In as few as 50 years, America's polar bears could be gone.

Photo credit: D. Crosbie, Canadian Ice Service New research by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) predicts dramatic declines in polar bear populations as global warming melts the Arctic sea ice these bears depend on for survival. It has never been so urgent to reduce global warming emissions and protect polar bears from extinction.

In light of these findings, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has reopened a brief, two week comment period on its January 2007 proposal to list polar bears as "threatened" under the Endangered Species Act.

No more delays or excuses - it's time to protect polar bears and their melting homes. Sign our petition to submit your official public comment urging the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to protect polar bears from extinction!

the site is:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeactio...

PLEASE PASS THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS!

Did you knew Polar Bears could die!! but you could make the diference today, just enter to this link and vote?
i will help. i signed! this is a good idea, being that they only need about 2,000 more signatures to meet their goal. kudos to you .... and LONG LIVE ALL FORMS OF LIFE IN THE WORLD!.... good luck!
Reply:First, I didn't know Polar Bears were American. Perhaps they can vote, which would be very helpful because politicians would want to keep them alive.

As much as we like the cute fellows, they are really vicious predators. I don't see anyone staying up all night crying over sabre-tooth tigers, so why should I cry over polar bears?
Reply:did you know polor bears have BLACK skin and CLEAR hair?
Reply:Due to Global Warming? The animation in An Inconvenient Truth was hilarious. The polar bear was swimming and couldn't find an ice chunk solid enough to support him. Most people in my class were sad and shocked. Me and my friend laughed our asses off.
Reply:I will help the polar bears! They're so cute :)
Reply:I will vote for the polar bears.
Reply:An endangered species is a population of an organism which is at risk of becoming extinct because it is either few in number, or threatened by changing environmental or predation parameters. An endangered species is usually a taxonomic species, but may be another evolutionary significant unit. The World Conservation Union (IUCN) has calculated the percentage of endangered species as 40 percent of all organisms based on the sample of species that have been evaluated through 2006.[2] (Note: the IUCN groups all threatened species for their summary purposes.) Many nations have laws offering protection to these species: for example, forbidding hunting, restricting land development or creating preserves. Only a few of the many species at risk of extinction actually make it to the lists and obtain legal protection. Many more species become extinct, or potentially will become extinct, without gaining public notice.

The conservation status of a species is an indicator of the likelihood of that endangered species not living. Many factors are taken into account when assessing the conservation status of a species; not simply the number remaining, but the overall increase or decrease in the population over time, breeding success rates, known threats, and so on. The IUCN Red List is the best known conservation status listing.

Internationally, 189 countries have signed an accord agreeing to create Biodiversity Action Plans to protect endangered and other threatened species. In the U.S. this plan is usually called a species Recovery Plan

The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species uses the term endangered species as a specific category of imperilment, rather than as a general term. Under the IUCN Categories and Criteria, endangered species is between critically endangered and vulnerable. Also critically endangered species may also be counted as endangered species and fill all the criteria

The more general term used by the IUCN for species at risk of extinction is threatened species, which also includes the less-at-risk category of vulnerable species together with endangered and critically endangered.

IUCN categories include:

Extinct: the last remaining member of the species had died, or is presumed beyond reasonable doubt to have died. Examples: Thylacine, Dodo, Passenger Pigeon

Extinct in the wild: captive individuals survive, but there is no free-living, natural population. Examples: Alagoas Curassow

Critically endangered: faces an extremely high risk of extinction in the immediate future. Examples: Ivory-billed Woodpecker, Arakan Forest Turtle, Javan Rhino

Endangered: faces a very high risk of extinction in the near future. Examples: Cheetah, Blue Whale, Snow Leopard, African Wild Dog

Vulnerable: faces a high risk of extinction in the medium-term. Examples: Gaur, Lion

Least Concern: no immediate threat to the survival of the species. Examples: Norway Rat, Nootka Cypress Hawaiian Hawk

So is it just a coincidence when Matthew said: Earthquakes will increase in the End Times?

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Magnitude 6.8 - SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION-TODAY

6.3-Magnitude Earthquake Strikes Nevada

earthquake hit northeast Nevada on Thursday

Norway's biggest quake hits Svalbard archipelago

An earthquake of 6.2 magnitude -- the biggest in Norwegian history -- jolted the thinly populated Svalbard archipelago in the Arctic on Wednesday night

Quake in Indonesia Kills 3, Injures 25-Tuesday

The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake had a preliminary magnitude of 7.6 and struck under the island of Simeulue off the western coast of Sumatra

3 5.0 Quake Shakes Calif.-Mexico Border

An estimated 5.0-magnitude earthquake has shaken the U.S.-Mexico border region near San Diego.

Earthquake Strikes Lebanon, Shakes Mideast

An earthquake shook parts of Lebanon and neighboring countries on Friday, causing damage and panic among residents

Quake strikes southern Greece

A strong earthquake struck southern Greece on Thursday

ALL OF THESE HAVE STRUCK SINCE FEB12th..ALL OVER 5.0

So is it just a coincidence when Matthew said: Earthquakes will increase in the End Times?
Not coincidence. We're just wearing the planet out. :)

Of all the discussions and theory's that address the end times, there is only one thing that sticks in the back of my mind. They are, in fact coming, just not here yet. We have the single union of the heads to worry about, the anti Christ and a whole other series of things to do. What bothers me is that in order to have this single union or government, there is going to have to be mass devastation to warrant such a thing, and I mean massive. Why else would America, China and a country so proud as Russia sign such an agreement. Gonna get worse?! OMG you have no idea.
Reply:You know there's dozens of these across the world every day, right?
Reply:since the dawn of time there have been earthquakes on this planet. since the day it was created/formed. Always have been always will be, at least until the earth is a dead hunk of rock. We just have CNN to cover them all. I really can't believe you would even consider using earthquakes to validate your belief that the end days are here. The tsunami that killed 200k was caused by a serious earthquake but in the mid 70's there was an earthquake in china that killed 300k. War, famine, pestilence, earthquakes. We will always have these. Your claim regarding earthquakes is ridiculous. There is NO evidence that they are occuring with more frequency or intensity than they did a million years ago.

Here is a website that I have been looking at everyday for the last 5 years. I saw the indonesian earthquake within an hour of it occuring. Lots of info here. All science, all fact.
Reply:Is it a coincidence that MANY others made the same kind of predictions.

There's nothing supernatural about earthquakes.
Reply:Sit down relax and think for one moment, the world is what 4 or 5 billion years old maybe even older, and mankind maybe 1 or 2 hundred thousand years old, and now all of a sudden it's all going to end, common sense and logic tells this man it's insane nonsense, and religious fear mongering that's all, hey the world is evolving and changing 24-7 and has for millions of years and some ding bat thinks they have the answer to the end, I wouldn't embarrass myself over such insane nonsense.
Reply:I don't think that anything in the Bible is a coincidence.
Reply:No ma'am. These are the end times in my opinion.
Reply:Ty must be getting some then. Good for him. :)

Good job Larry! Great minds...you know. :)
Reply:LOL at the first two answers! I was just gonna post that!

LMAO
Reply:Wow, you really are an endearing little thing, aren't you?

There are thousands of earthquakes going on at any given moment, all over the world. Most of them undersea. We don't necessarily notice (or care) about the smaller ones.

I'd bet money that you know nothing about earthquakes beyond what you gathered from news based websites.
Reply:We may think its the end,

but they also thought it was the end 50 yrs ago....

It will get WAYYYYY worst than this.

It tells about the end times in Revalation and what has to happen first.
Reply:Matthew was a tax collector. Don't believe me? Read the Gospel of Matthew.

Now if you're asking me whether a tax collector was accurate in his description of geological events, I would have to answer

"Who gives a rat's a$$?"
Reply:Earthquakes happen everyday, ones we feel and ones we don't. Yes I am a Bible believer, but these earthquakes you have shown are not unusual. Those areas are all on heavy fault lines, which keep shifting tectonic plates.
Reply:There are earthquakes every day, all over the planet.

C%26amp;C, have you ever wondered WHY you want the End TImes to occur during your lifetime? Just curious.
Reply:Matthew speaks of earthquakes ocurring shortly before the temple (that was standing at the time) would be destroyed. Those earthquakes ocurred, and the temple was destroyed. In fact, the Romans took it apart stone by stone just as Matthew claimed.

If you'd like to read the details of it, read War of the Jews here:

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/JOS...

Those earthquakes happened two thousand years ago, and there's no need for worrying about them now.

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Reply:So what evidence do you have that it is "increasing"? Compared to what historical data?
Reply:No, it's not a coincidence. Don't you know that the statement is a prophetic statement given by a supreme prophet?
Reply:well look for the other signs too. the temple of Jerusalem needs to be rebuilt. One of the worst earthquakes was in San Francisco, 1906. People may have thought the end was near then but here we are 100+ years later.
Reply:Quit freaking out. What are you going to do to change it? Get closer to the lord, that's the only thing you can control.
Reply:No its true and very scary.
Reply:It's because of this guy http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

Edit: LOL st.alia
Reply:Use your free time to more productive pursuits, not looking for evidence that the world is coming to an end.

Humanity has sought and found evidence of and have been preparing and waiting for the end since recorded history.

THAT is another problem with the current fundamentalists, waiting to die, or don't you believe in the rapture where all good Christians will be shot up to heaven and avoid all of the end times gore
Reply:Read Hebrews 1:1 in these last days God choose his Son to communicate with us. When Jesus died and rose again we started the blood covenant. We have been in the last days for 2000 plus years. To answer correctly we must research earthquakes prior to Christ death. Bottom line we have been in the last days a long time.
Reply:to see if the incidence of earthquakes are actually increasing we would need to know how many occurences there was in the past and compare it with today.

i don't think there is a record of all the earthquakes that have ever taken place, so we cannot know for sure if its occurence is increasing.
Reply:Isaiah said satyrs exist. I don't think the bible is a good place to look for facts.
Reply:Yes.

It's not hard to make a prediction like earthquakes will increase. Try giving us something a little harder. Pigs will fly or something....
Reply:No. The older the earth gets, the more stress on the plates. God, who knows everything, can add and subtract. He knows we are near the end. He put it in Matthew to warn us.
Reply:Nope. Not a coincidence as far as I'm concerned.
Reply:So you're saying that earthquakes are the result of the god from the Bible getting mad at people?
Reply:do you realize how many earthquakes there have been throughout history?

earthquake = tectonic plates moving, shifting, and bumping into one another, nothing more.

Least seismically active areas of the United States?

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I realize that "active" might be a subjective term when dealing with seismic activity, since Illinois had its strongest earthquake in 40 years two weeks ago, with not much noticeable activity in the area in a long time, but I got to wondering, over the past 50-100 years, what has been the least seismically active areas of the U.S.? I notice from this map from the U.S. Geological Survey that the Aleutian Islands almost never STOP showing seismic activity:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/rece...

As a personal aside, I thought going through the 5.2 was pretty cool. I was having my morning coffee when it hit, and it really woke me up...the earthquake, not the coffee. :-)

Least seismically active areas of the United States?
Yep, it is interesting, isn't it! We had one of similar magnitude here in the UK a couple of months back. I was at my computer, and I had to hold the monitor, which threatened to jump right off it's base!

Afraid I'm unable to answer your question, but I'm sure the answer is available from the USGS site.

"The frequency of major earthquakes has increased about 20 times?

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what it was on an average during the two thousand years before 1914." Survival into a New Earth...

Luke 21:11 uses the phrase "and there will be great earthquakes,…"

Jesus did not detail what constitutes a great earthquake. He simply stated that there will be great earthquakes and these will be in one place after another.

Seismology is a new science with the first seismograph invented in 1880. For this reason accurate records of earthquakes measuring 7.5 on the Richter scale have only become possible since then. Accurate and complete seismological records are now readily obtainable. http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstat... (July 2005) provided a list of earthquakes for this period resulting in over 1000 deaths. From 1902 to 2001

Where is your proof to dispute this?

The U.S. Geological Survey estimates that large earthquakes occur about once a year. Smaller earthquakes, only magnitude 2 earthquakes, occur several hundred times a day www.encyclopedia.com stated 1 January 2005

"The frequency of major earthquakes has increased about 20 times?
Sweetie- they will miss it.

But, yes- they are increasing in magnitude and frequency.
Reply:It never fails to amaze me how all these fundies just try to reach to make anything fit their little fairy tale book. It's kind of comical.
Reply:Astonishing.

Where are you getting your figures for prior to 1935, when the Richter scale was invented? Did earthquakes measure 7.5 'thingies' prior to then?

And the first seismograph was invented in the 2nd century, in China.

It's hard to dispute your facts when they're so illogically laid out, and indeed seem to peter out mid-paragraph from wherever you copypastaed them.
Reply:There's nothing supernatural about earthquakes.

Joshua commanded the sun to stop and the sun doesn't even move.
Reply:The old gal she is a changing really nothing to worry about though, unless you live in a earthquake zone or fault.
Reply:So you're saying there's no possible natural explanation?
Reply:I can assure you that the frequency of earthquakes during the formation of the Appalachian or Rocky Mountain ranges was much higher than it is today.

Although, since many of you Christians think the Earth is only 6000 years old, Platetechtonics probably doesn't compute.
Reply:Since as you pointed out "Seismology is a new science with the first seismograph invented in 1880." how in the world can you then state that "The frequency of major earthquakes has increased about 20 times what it was on an average during the two thousand years before 1914." without being so embarrassed at your own inanity that you turn red, run out of the room and hide in your closet out of shame?

Holy crap, you didn't even read the entire article did you. It contradicts your main point and you didn't even notice. I recommend you stick to nursing and leave geology to the literate.
Reply:Makes you think doesnt it? Last days!
Reply:Actually, that same page links to this page:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/topi...

Which states:

We continue to be asked by many people throughout the world if earthquakes are on the increase. Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant.

A partial explanation may lie in the fact that in the last twenty years, we have definitely had an increase in the number of earthquakes we have been able to locate each year. This is because of the tremendous increase in the number of seismograph stations in the world and the many improvements in global communications. In 1931, there were about 350 stations operating in the world; today, there are more than 8,000 stations and the data now comes in rapidly from these stations by electronic mail, internet and satellite. This increase in the number of stations and the more timely receipt of data has allowed us and other seismological centers to locate earthquakes more rapidly and to locate many small earthquakes which were undetected in earlier years. The NEIC now locates about 20,000 earthquakes each year or approximately 50 per day. Also, because of the improvements in communications and the increased interest in the environment and natural disasters, the public now learns about more earthquakes.

According to long-term records (since about 1900), we expect about 17 major earthquakes (7.0 - 7.9) and one great earthquake (8.0 or above) in any given year.
Reply:The frequency has not increased, what has increased is our ability to be more aware due to advances in media coverage.

BB

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Reply:Have you ever been to school? Ever in your life?

You know these things, it' a little difficult to grasp, they're called plate tectonics?
Reply:Didn't you even read the "Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?" page that was linked in your own link?
Reply:It seems like, as the number of monitoring stations increase... we monitor more earthquakes...it's like speeding cameras, the more there are, the more people get caught... doesn't mean the others weren't speeding before, just that they get noticed more. The important bit is that the number of major earthquakes stays the same... regardless, so there's no increase :)

Btw...you're a BIT out of your league with the sciency stuff... trust me. It's not even your sport... and most likely not your country...

*scoff*
Reply:MARBLES!

edit: do you have an earthquake fetish?

teeth

Don't you think studing Biblical Prophecy and Prayer just gives you stronger faith?

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and courage as you see unfolding current events that are affecting our planet?

Such as these latest events:

Battered by bad economic news, consumer confidence plunged while wholesale food, energy and medicine costs soared, pushing inflation up at the fastest pace in a quarter century

third report Tuesday showed that home prices, measured by the S%26amp;P/Case-Shiller Index, dropped by 8.9 percent in the fourth quarter of last year, the steepest drop in the 20-year history of the index

A 4th strong 6.7-magnitude earthquake struck off Indonesia's Sumatra island early Tuesday, the US Geological Survey said, sparking a local tsunami alert

Kuwaiti Paper: Mega-Attack on Israel in March coordinated by Syria and Iran-http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/F...

Abbas: Peace in 2008 or never-http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c...

Don't you think studing Biblical Prophecy and Prayer just gives you stronger faith?
The purpose of prophecy is NOT to make people feel smug. If you read it properly, you will see yourself in it, and not necessarily as a victim. Properly understood, prophecy will motivate you to take action to make the world better, not sit idly by and watch people suffer. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. Jesus had no patience with people who mouthed platitudes and acted "virtuous". He only respected people who were actively trying to transform the world and build up the kingdom of heaven.
Reply:I guess you could say that.

I don't believe in a God, but I have faith in love. Faith that it unites people.

And being here in R%26amp;S is a form of religious study. It is also strengthening my faith in love, because it strengthens my love.

So, following a logical path through the above information, I conclude that indeed my faith is strengthened by religious study.

((((hugs))))
Reply:It didn't work that way for me. It only led to more and more questions without plausible answers.
Reply:It does make me stronger in faith, and realizing that there is so much more spiritualy to live for than whats on this earth.
Reply:Yes reading scripture and prayer will increase your faith.

But regarding the news items...none of that is important.

Don't get caught up in end-times prophecy gloom and doom. If it is so, you cannot stop it. It is written and therefore must occur. If it is false, then you waste much life on "the cares of this world".

Love God and be happy.

Peace
Reply:the news tends to just reinforce my belief in God,since God told us these things would happen...yes
Reply:YES GODS WORD IS FOOD FOR YOUR SOUL... THE WORLD AND THIS SYSTEM IS FALLING NO HOPE FOR THOSE THAT DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS ... HE S THE SAVIOR ;;;
Reply:i like that it gives me the ability to answer whatever questions non-believers might have. that it backs up my faith.
Reply:No, in fact, I suspect the buy-bull kills brain cells.
Reply:Our lives are easier and more comfortable then ever in the history of the world.
Reply:Yes, I do.

Why would you choose this artical?And did you agree with the informatin given?

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Working as part of the National Science Foundation's West Antarctic Ice Sheet Divide (WAIS Divide) Ice Core Project, a team of scientists, engineers, technicians, and students from multiple U.S. institutions have recovered a 580-meter (1,900-foot) ice core -- the first section of what is hoped to be a 3,465-meter (11,360-foot) column of ice detailing 100,000 years of Earth's climate history, including a precise year-by-year record of the last 40,000 years.

The dust, chemicals, and air trapped in the two-mile-long ice core will provide critical information for scientists working to predict the extent to which human activity will alter Earth's climate, according to the chief scientist for the project, Kendrick Taylor of the Desert Research Institute of the Nevada System of Higher Education. DRI, along with the University of New Hampshire, operates the Science Coordination Office for the WAIS Divide Project.

WAIS Divide, named for the high-elevation region that is the boundary separating opposing flow directions on the ice sheet, is the best spot on the planet to recover ancient ice containing trapped air bubbles -- samples of the Earth's atmosphere from the present to as far back as 100,000 years ago.

While other ice cores have been used to develop longer records of Earth's atmosphere, the record from WAIS Divide will allow a more detailed study of the interaction of previous increases in greenhouse gases and climate change. This information will improve computer models that are used to predict how the current unprecedented high levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity will influence future climate.

The WAIS Divide core is also the Southern Hemisphere equivalent of a series of ice cores drilled in Greenland beginning in 1989, and it will provide the best opportunity for scientists to determine if global-scale climate changes that occurred before human activity started to influence climate were initiated in the Arctic, the tropics, or Antarctica.

The new core will also allow investigations of biological material in deep ice, which will yield information about biogeochemical processes that control and are controlled by climate, as well as lead to fundamental insights about life on Earth.

Says Taylor, "We are very excited to work with ancient ice that fell as snow as long as 100,000 years ago. We read the ice like other people might read a stack of old weather reports."

The WAIS project took more than 15 years of planning and preparation, including extensive airborne reconnaissance and ground-based geophysical research, to pinpoint the one-square-kilometer (less than a square mile) space on the 932,000-square-kilometer (360,000-square-mile) ice sheet that scientists believe will provide the clearest climate record for the last 100,000 years.

With only some 40 days a year when the weather is warm enough for drilling -- yesterday's temperature was a balmy -15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit) -- it is expected to take until January 2010 to complete the fieldwork.

For the project, Ice Coring and Drilling Services of the University of Wisconsin-Madison built and is operating a state-of-the-art, deep ice-coring drill, which is more like a piece of scientific equipment than a conventional rock drill used in petroleum exploration. The U.S. Geological Survey National Ice Core Laboratory in Denver designed the core handling system. Raytheon Polar Services Corporation provides the logistical support. The NSF Office of Polar Programs-U.S. Antarctic Program funds the project. The core will be archived at the National Ice Core Laboratory, which is run by the USGS with funding from NSF.

Why would you choose this artical?And did you agree with the informatin given?
I would choose this article because a friend of mine just got back from doing this in Antarctica. It's very valuable work and I don't think there's much you could disagree with in the article.

So what do you think is the true story with the weather? Polar Shift of 2012?

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Scientists quacking like ducks to figure out what they don't know? Ice Age,or the end times that we need to prepare ourselves for in the coming of our Lord?

Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory? http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/global_...

The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake had a preliminary magnitude of 7.6 and struck under the island of Simeulue off the western coast of Sumatra

5.0 Quake Shakes Calif.-Mexico Border- 5th one on the same fault

-magnitude earthquake has shaken the U.S.-Mexico border region near San Diego.

Where have all the sunspots gone?

Given the current quietness of the sun and it’s magnetic field, combined with the late start to cycle 24 it appears that the sun has slowed it’s internal dynamo to a similar level such as Dalton Minimum.

So what do you think is the true story with the weather? Polar Shift of 2012?
Weather we are in a global warming pattern or a global cooling pattern is no concern of mine since the Bible tells us that God will provide and give us everything we need. Trust and obey.
Reply:There is all kinds of conflicting data on the ice caps. It's melting some places, and growing others. There is also data that indicates warming on other planets.

It is complected, and anyone saying there is an easy answer isn't very informed. But none of that indicates that anything out of the normal is happening. We only have about 50 years of global data since that is all the longer we have satellites. There is 4.5 billion years of history. Not much to go on.
Reply:The true story is that we're experiencing weather phenomena that we've seen before. Earthquakes are nothing new, and are not increasing in frequency. The only increase is in the detection methods, which is why we see more.

That website you link to obviously doesn't understand that what is referred to as "global warming" is actually "global climate change." The severe weather patterns they talk about don't prove that it's false, they support the fact that it's happening.

I don't know what happened to the sunspots. I also don't know about the Polar Shift. Science doesn't have enough information about polar shifts to predict them, so I would be wary of anybody claiming that one will happen in 2012.
Reply:I believe it is a natural cycle, after all we were not around a million years ago, and if you check the layers of the earth, there have been times like this. Still, be like the boyscouts, always be prepared.
Reply:Can you please stop with the "world is going to end on December 21, 2012" rubbish? I have got news for you: it wil not. On December 22, 2012, I will wake up and make fun of everyone that believed this joke.
Reply:the true story is that the worlds climate has never ever been stable.
Reply:I feel that mans rule on earth has reached it's end. Look at the signs, children taking the greatest gift that God gave us another child's life. Oil, Prices, corruption in Government, Iran North Korea, where do we go from here. God will set up his Government and end Mans rule. He gave us 6000 years to rule ourselves and look at what we have done. One GOD, One Church, One Son, One Truth. It is the End Times with only one seal to be opened, this has to happen before we destroy each other and if you look we are not to far from that.

Officially Record Your Experience Of The UK Earthquake?

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The British Geological Survey collates data about UK earthquakes.

You can record your experience through their questionnaire here...

http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/

Oh and I'll give the 10 points to whoever gives the best account of what they were doing when the earth moved!

x

Officially Record Your Experience Of The UK Earthquake?
i was in the living room watching shameless, and there was a massive rumble, and all these bricks came falling down the chimney! a bit of the wall flew off and hit me on the lip. %26gt;:(
Reply:I didn't feel anything but I did read a lot of peoples' responses on YA.

I am in the U.S..
Reply:5.2 actually

I was watching Buffy and my computer started bumping across the desk, together with everything that hung in my room swinging
Reply:I woke up thinking someone was jumping on my bed, whilst there were massive bangs on the floor above! Very scary indeed.

I know a lot of people from different countries think it's pathetic, but for most people I know, that was the first time they'd ever felt one. And for a first time, it was pretty strong. They just don't happen very often over here!
Reply:It was a 4.7..that's a yawner her in California...not even worth mentioning.

wisdom teeth

Should Polar Bears be listed as an endangered species?

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Summer sea ice in Alaska last year shrunk to about 1.65 million square miles last year, the lowest level in 38 years of satellite record-keeping and nearly 40 percent less ice than the long-term average between 1979 and 2000. Some climate models have predicted the Arctic will be free of summer sea ice by 2030. A U.S. Geological Survey study predicted polar bears in Alaska could be wiped out by 2050.

http://green.yahoo.com/news/ap/20080310/...

Should Polar Bears be listed as an endangered species?
Its so sad, these beautiful animals could loose the homes and their lives all within this few decades. I wish the bureaucrats would get a move on, and include the polar bears on the list of endangered species. Great article and lovely photo. I truly hope they will be around for our children to see.
Reply:Of course! If we don't do it now, who will? If we don't take action, people might never take action. Then we'd lose such an interesting and magnificent animal.
Reply:Yes, I think that polar bears should be listed as an endangered species. They're being killed every day from oil spills, melting iceburgs, shorter seasons to be able to go on sea ice, mother's milk being poisoned, and being hunted.

Though many say that they are just vulnerable, I think that their population could grow much shorter over the years. Just look at how much their populations have decreased already.. =(

What are your views on this issue?
Reply:Here is a quote from "The U.S. Fish %26amp; Wildlife Service estimates that the polar bear population is currently at 20,000 to 25,000 bears, up from as low as 5,000-10,000 bears in the 1950s and 1960s. A 2002 U.S. Geological Survey of wildlife in the Arctic Refuge Coastal Plain noted that the polar bear populations “may now be near historic highs.”

Also.....most of the ice that disappeared the last few years returned this winter. Old saying..".If you don't like the weather just wait".

SO I guess my answer is no to endangered status.

The only reason people want it is to use it as a tool to restrict land use all over the north.
Reply:Polar bears aren't the only endangered species there. The whole environment is in danger. I saw 2 photos of the same area taken 10 years apart. The first showed snow %26amp; ice. The second showed green grass. We are killing %26amp; raping this beatiful planet. Thank God for space exploration! Good Luck %26amp; Blessings
Reply:Most defiantly! Polar Bears could be extinct in the next fifty years if people don't stop driving their huge gas guzzlers around!
Reply:If you dont list them in the endangered species list now u can be sure u will find them listed in the extinct species list in a decade .

with regards

http://www.chocolatesavy.com
Reply:totally yes. if the ice caps melts where will they live on.
Reply:There is very specific criteria to adding animals to the endangered species list, I don't think the polar bears have reached that point. Even if they were listed what good would that do. It was not easy to stop the production of DDT when we found it was making the eggs of bald eagles fragile. Think of all the things we need to do to stop global warming. I expect some great disaster before people wake up to the harm global warming can do. We can not even convince everyone GW is real.

How does this events apply to the natural world?Why is this infomation important for us to know and how would?

2009-11-17T18:36:00.000-08:00

New Antarctic Ice Core To Provide Clearest Climate Record Yet

science daily (Feb 27, 2008) — After enduring months on the coldest, driest, and windiest continent on Earth, researchers today closed out the inaugural season on an unprecedented, multi-year effort to retrieve the most detailed record of greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere over the last 100,000 years.

Working as part of the National Science Foundation's West Antarctic Ice Sheet Divide (WAIS Divide) Ice Core Project, a team of scientists, engineers, technicians, and students from multiple U.S. institutions have recovered a 580-meter (1,900-foot) ice core -- the first section of what is hoped to be a 3,465-meter (11,360-foot) column of ice detailing 100,000 years of Earth's climate history, including a precise year-by-year record of the last 40,000 years.

The dust, chemicals, and air trapped in the two-mile-long ice core will provide critical information for scientists working to predict the extent to which human activity will alter Earth's climate, according to the chief scientist for the project, Kendrick Taylor of the Desert Research Institute of the Nevada System of Higher Education. DRI, along with the University of New Hampshire, operates the Science Coordination Office for the WAIS Divide Project.

WAIS Divide, named for the high-elevation region that is the boundary separating opposing flow directions on the ice sheet, is the best spot on the planet to recover ancient ice containing trapped air bubbles -- samples of the Earth's atmosphere from the present to as far back as 100,000 years ago.

While other ice cores have been used to develop longer records of Earth's atmosphere, the record from WAIS Divide will allow a more detailed study of the interaction of previous increases in greenhouse gases and climate change. This information will improve computer models that are used to predict how the current unprecedented high levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity will influence future climate.

The WAIS Divide core is also the Southern Hemisphere equivalent of a series of ice cores drilled in Greenland beginning in 1989, and it will provide the best opportunity for scientists to determine if global-scale climate changes that occurred before human activity started to influence climate were initiated in the Arctic, the tropics, or Antarctica.

The new core will also allow investigations of biological material in deep ice, which will yield information about biochemically processes that control and are controlled by climate, as well as lead to fundamental insights about life on Earth.

Says Taylor, "We are very excited to work with ancient ice that fell as snow as long as 100,000 years ago. We read the ice like other people might read a stack of old weather reports."

The WAIS project took more than 15 years of planning and preparation, including extensive airborne reconnaissance and ground-based geophysical research, to pinpoint the one-square-kilometer (less than a square mile) space on the 932,000-square-kilometer (360,000-square-mile) ice sheet that scientists believe will provide the clearest climate record for the last 100,000 years.

With only some 40 days a year when the weather is warm enough for drilling -- yesterday's temperature was a balmy -15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit) -- it is expected to take until January 2010 to complete the fieldwork.

For the project, Ice Coring and Drilling Services of the University of Wisconsin-Madison built and is operating a state-of-the-art, deep ice-coring drill, which is more like a piece of scientific equipment than a conventional rock drill used in petroleum exploration. The U.S. Geological Survey National Ice Core Laboratory in Denver designed the core handling system. Raytheon Polar Services Corporation provides the logistical support. The NSF Office of Polar Programs-U.S. Antarctic Program funds the project. The core will be archived at the National Ice Core Laboratory, which is run by the USGS with funding from NSF.

How does this events apply to the natural world?Why is this infomation important for us to know and how would?
it provides more accurate record of the past environmental conditions

Scoffers- Can you admit now that you were wrong when you accused Christians?

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of ignoring Global Warming as valid by the latest evidence?

Antarctic glaciers surge to ocean

Antartica- glacier there is evidence of a volcano that erupted through the ice about 2,000 years ago and the whole region could be volcanically active-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...

Another earthquake today as well...

JAKARTA, Feb 24 (Reuters) - A 6.6 magnitude earthquake hit Indonesia off the coast of Sumatra island on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey reported.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk...

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp Vice Chairman Bob Lutz has defended remarks he made dismissing global warming as a "total crock

Biblical Weather Forecast:

the world fades and withers ...' (Isa 24.4)

'... the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left' (Isa 24.6)

'There will be ... dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves' (Lk 21.25)

'... all the green grass was burned up' (Rev 8.7)

Scoffers- Can you admit now that you were wrong when you accused Christians?
*imagines sound of whip cracking. decides not to answer question*

lol

((((hugs))))

*goes red. walks away*
Reply:"General Motors Corp Vice Chairman Bob Lutz has defended remarks he made dismissing global warming as a "total crock "

Absolutely no vested interests there then....

So let me understand, you are saying global warming is tosh, but that we will nearly all burn crispy style with a volcanoquake?

Awesome. I like your style. I wish I could find a question to answer...
Reply:I'm not sure what scoffers you are addressing, or what they allegedly accused anyone else of.

in my experience, some Christians and non-Christians ignore evidence of climate change, some Christians use climate change as an argument for "end times" mania du jour, and some Christians are just as concerned/accepting of climate change as anyone else.

I've never said anything different.
Reply:I'm sorry. I didn't realize that natural disasters were only a recent occurrence. Shame on me for paying attention in Earth History classes.
Reply:I did what now?

Climate change deniers come from all religions and backgrounds, and they're all idiots.

It's nice to see that we at least agree that global warming is happening, though.
Reply:they will never admit any thing sis.
Reply:Who's taking Bible quotes out of context now?
Reply:Questions I can answer, disjointed rants I will have to ignore.
Reply:what??
Reply:Haha

I'm sorry. My bunny friend here ^ is a little shy tonight. I think I know why. Check my last best answer.

(skips away giggling)
Reply:Interesting isn't it?
Reply:No, not wrong. You Christians are constantly trying to visualize the world's end. Global warming is a scientific fact. It is caused by over-population and misuse of fossil fuels. It is not god's punishment for homosexuals or lack of piety in our society. Your argument is based on a false premise, i.e. that the bible is to be taken as the direct word of god and the complete truth. It is neither.
Reply:scoff, scoff, scoff.

Could you correct my writing (grammar, language structure)?

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Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) is a region in Northeastern Alaska, untouched by the civilizations. It is known for its biological diversity and many species of animal dwell in that land. Coastal plain or 1002 area is highly considered as petroleum rich site and organizations, government have been debating on this issue whether they should drill oil (development in biologically rich land) or preserve the nature (conservation perspective). No one really knows how much oil is in the refuge. 1998 U.S. Geological survey estimated the area could yield between 3 and 16 million barrels of oil.

• Not many animals use the coastal plain area frequently. Despite 30 years of drilling oil at Prudhoe bay (near coastal plain) wildlife are still healthy. These creatures usually can co-exist with development and it wouldn’t be a huge problem for animals to survive. Even though the North Slope has developed for 40 years, the number of caribou and animals increased from 3000 to 23400.

Could you correct my writing (grammar, language structure)?
The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) is a region in Northeastern Alaska untouched by civilizations. It is known for its biological diversity and many species of animals dwell in this land. The coastal plain or 1002 area is highly considered as petroleum rich site. Some organizations and the government have been debating whether to drill oil, for development of biologially rich land, or to preserve the nature through conservation. The amount of oil in the refuge is unknown. A 1998 U.S. Geological survey estimated that the area could yield between 3 and 16 million barrels of oil.

Few animals use the coastal plain area frequently. Despite 30 years of drilling oil at Prudhoe bay, near the coastal plain, wildlife creatures are still healthy. These creatures are usually able to co-exist with development and it is not a struggle for them to survive. Although the North Slope has developed for 40 years, the number of caribou and other animals has increased from 3,000 to 23,400.

hope that helped!

Nanny Agency

DO you think that WE ARE BEING DRUGGED ON PURPOSE?

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(Tongue in cheek. I think.)

Officials in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, said testing there discovered 56 pharmaceuticals or byproducts in treated drinking water, including medicines for pain, infection, high cholesterol, asthma, epilepsy, mental illness and heart problems. Sixty-three pharmaceuticals or byproducts were found in the city's watersheds.

• Anti-epileptic and anti-anxiety medications were detected in a portion of the treated drinking water for 18.5 million people in Southern California.

• Researchers at the U.S. Geological Survey analyzed a Passaic Valley Water Commission drinking water treatment plant, which serves 850,000 people in Northern New Jersey, and found a metabolized angina medicine and the mood-stabilizing carbamazepine in drinking water.

• A sex hormone was detected in the drinking water of San Francisco, California.

• The drinking water for Washington, D.C., and surrounding areas tested positive for six pharmaceuticals.

DO you think that WE ARE BEING DRUGGED ON PURPOSE?
I live in Southern California and I have never had a epileptic fit. I guess I should thank the water company.
Reply:The part you may not have heard is that in all cases "they" have stated that the amounts were infinitesimally small, some in the parts per trillion, so "they" said there were no immediate dangers.

That being said, what easier way to control a nation than to add a few mind and/or mood altering pharmaceuticals into the water supply?

It could happen.
Reply:you bet ye.
Reply:the only one i believe is the sex hormone in san francisco, i wouldnt want to be near a leather club there on a friday. but seriously why would they do that?
Reply:Yes. The FBI also watches you masturbate!

Did the Bible say something about springs of the sea and the recesses of the deep?

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...which was recently discovered by scientist?

In 1977, scientists discovered hot springs at a depth of 2.5 km, on the Galapagos Rift (spreading ridge) off the coast of Ecuador. This exciting discovery was not really a surprise. Since the early 1970s, scientists had predicted that hot springs (geothermal vents) should be found at the active spreading centers along the mid-oceanic ridges, where magma, at temperatures over 1,000 °C, presumably was being erupted to form new oceanic crust. More exciting, because it was totally unexpected, was the discovery of abundant and unusual sea life -- giant tube worms, huge clams, and mussels -- that thrived around the hot springs ---- (from; Exploring the deep ocean floor: Hot springs and strange creatures. U.S. Dept. of Interior, U.S. Geological survey)

Did the Bible say something about springs of the sea and the recesses of the deep?
Genesis 7:11 - In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Psalm 36:6 - Thy righteousness is like the great mountains; thy judgments are a great deep: O LORD, thou preservest man and beast.

Isaiah 51:10 - Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?

Ezekiel 26:19 - For thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall make thee a desolate city, like the cities that are not inhabited; when I shall bring up the deep upon thee, and great waters shall cover thee;

Ezekiel 31:4 - The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.

Ezekiel 31:15 - Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.

Amos 7:4 - Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and, behold, the Lord GOD called to contend by fire, and it devoured the great deep, and did eat up a part.
Reply:Don't confuse simple observation with divine revelation. You have no idea what the people from historical Middle East were aware of.

Sure, in 1977, scientists found hot springs in the depths of the ocean. That does not mean springs were unknown until 1977. Bad correlation! What WAS unexpected was the abundance of life there, not the presence of a spring.

Compare this coincidence with the scientific errors within the Bible and you'll understand the Bible is a spiritual manual, not a science manual.
Reply:It doesn't really require divine knowledge. From the point of view of a primative culture, the sea would require "springs" to make it so full of water (by the way, the undersea thermal plumes come from VENTS, not springs. These are significantly different. Why didn't God use the correct terminology?)

And the sea is deep? No kidding. I'm sure humans have known that ever since they first entered water that was over their head.
Reply:We know more about space than we do about our own oceans. For man to look out at something as vast as the ocean wouldn't you describe it the same way? It doesn't take any sort of holy literature to surmise the sea has deep recesses, come on now.
Reply:Matthew Murray from 1806-1873 is considered the Father of Oceanography and also noted Psalm 8:8. He set out to find them first. His books are still used.
Reply:You again? Please. I don't quite see how your bible quote implies the existence of deep-see vents.

You'd think that if God knew all this scientific stuff beforehand the first verses of Genesis would make a little more sense. Specifically you'd think he could have gotten the things that were created in the right order. But sorry, he fails miserably in that respect. So I'm not inclined to believe.
Reply:Yes, I've heard about this several times. Funny you should mention the book of Job. There are some references in it that many people find startling. It's a very enigmatic book and considered to be one of the most fascinating books in the Bible.

Earthquake strikes Greece not Japan.. My data and calculation is useless..?

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I did posted out 2 weeks ago that " Can Japan be having earthquake on July 14 2008 "

My data compare with the actual result is completely offset by appx~6000 miles. I am feeling very sad and appolgies to people around the world that i have calculated and posted result that is not acurate. below are the news clip :-

Tuesday July 15, 2008 MYT 1:58:43 PM

ATHENS, Greece (AP): The Athens Geodynamic Institute says a strong earthquake has struck near the Greek island of Rhodes. The Geodynamic Institute says the quake with a preliminary magnitude of 6.3 struck at 6:26 a.m. (0326 GMT) Tuesday. Its epicenter was 445 kilometers (275 miles) southeast of Athens, beneath the seabed south of Rhodes.

The U.S. Geological Survey gave the magnitude as 6.4.

Blow are the answer that was replied 2 weeks ago, thank you for replying

by Curiosit... No, I do not agree with you. The "science" of predicting earthquakes is not as precise as your prediction.

Science can predict earthquakes; however, t

Earthquake strikes Greece not Japan.. My data and calculation is useless..?
The earth quake that struck Athens, in Greece, has affected the Lebanese coast by this earthquake.
Reply:Earthquakes are unpredictable and can happen anywhere (usually near or around fault boundaries). You can make predictions but that is about as far as you can get. Even with out technology today it is still hard to detect an Earthquake before it happens.

Massive oil deposit found i U.S....think the Democrats will let us ACTUALLY dig on our own soil?

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Massive Oil Deposit Could Increase US reserves by 10x

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next...

America is sitting on top of a super massive 200 billion barrel Oil Field that could potentially make America Energy Independent and until now has largely gone unnoticed. Thanks to new technology the Bakken Formation in North Dakota could boost America’s Oil reserves by an incredible 10 times, giving western economies the trump card against OPEC’s short squeeze on oil supply and making Iranian and Venezuelan threats of disrupted supply irrelevant.

In the next 30 days the USGS (U.S. Geological Survey) will release a new report giving an accurate resource assessment of the Bakken Oil Formation that covers North Dakota and portions of South Dakota and Montana. With new horizontal drilling technology it is believed that from 175 to 500 billion barrels of recoverable oil are held in this 200,000 square mile reserve that was initially discovered in 1951.

Massive oil deposit found i U.S....think the Democrats will let us ACTUALLY dig on our own soil?
The government hasn't seen Americans turning cars over and setting them on fire in the streets yet.

They haven't thought about fearing their own constituents yet.

The liberal, sandal wearing, pot smoking, tree-hugging morons don't know what's coming until it hits them that even they can't afford to be environmentally conscious.

The oil companies are full of it. They create shortages by manipulating refinery capabilities and the government stands hand in glove with them on denying licenses and permits to build any more refineries.

No one wants to drill for oil domestically when its dirt cheap to yank it out of someone else's backyard. Why? Cost of labor domestically plus cost of permits and complying with artificially increased red tape equals drilling afar as opposed to a-near.

Basic bottom line: when the consumers change their habits and make it unprofitable to import oil, they all start worrying.
Reply:Back here in REALITY...

North Dakota and Montana are 2 of the best places in the world to put up wind fields that will actually help to wean America off of foreign oil.

The coal companies oppose any efforts to develop wind power in those states, though, because it would cut into their markets.
Reply:It must have been there for thousands of years so why has it taken the US so long to find it (If in fact it is there at all)
Reply:Why drill and use up our oil. Why not use up the worlds oil first and then drill ours.

The high cost of gas is the only way we will learn to conserve.
Reply:no matter how much is found, the tree huggers will find a way to stop any progres.
Reply:the politicians won't let us drill and we probably have more oil than Saudi Arabia ( if I recall right their biggest field is 55 billion barrels ). the sad truth is I think we already have the technology and can get by without the oil but the gov is making too much money on taxes and they don't have to do a thing. I also heard that they found the biggest oil field in the world in Alaska and are just waiting for $150./barrel to start to drill. if the gov really wanted too we could convert to zero point energy tomorrow and it would be free (well almost).

CAT

Is the Book of Revelation unfolding in front of yesterday and today?

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Revelation 6:12

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,

Total Lunar Eclipse: February 20, 2008

6.3 quake rattles northeastern Nevada

16 minutes ago

WELLS, Nev. - A strong earthquake shook rural northeastern Nevada Thursday, causing at least one building to collapse and forcing a truck stop to evacuate, authorities said.

The quake had a preliminary magnitude of 6.3 and was reported at 6:16 a.m., according to the U.S. Geological Survey. It was centered in a sparsely populated area 11 miles southeast of Wells near the Nevada-Utah line.

Is the Book of Revelation unfolding in front of yesterday and today?
If you are a true believer you are already prayed up and continuing to do God's Service until Jesus calls for us. If you are not a true believer, I would be getting down on my hands %26amp; knees asking God to forgive me for all my sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, He is God's only begotten Son %26amp; know that He died on the cross for you %26amp; me.

The End times are here; look at all the signs of the times, you can read of them in revelations. Examples: Wars and rumors of wars, strange weather patterns causing mass destruction %26amp; loss of life, the all mighty dollar becoming God for a lot of people, the LOVE OF money is the root of all evil, not the money itself. God knows we have to have it to exist on this earth but, You are not to put it first and forth most before God. I truly believe that you can take the bible word for word and believe it will happen just as it says it will. Not everything has been written in parables; those were told by Jesus to the people of that day, because it is the only way He could get through to them; they were not intelligent enough or learned enough to be told in any other way for them to understand what He had to tell the world. I hope when Jesus calls His Bride to come up and meet Him in the clouds that I will be able to stand beside Him and see how many NON-believers of God start hitting their knees when they start seeing the dead in Christ start raising up out of their graves and heading for the clouds to meet up with their Savior and Lord!
Reply:Again with this?? There are earthquakes around the world EVERY DAY. Eclipses happen on a REGULAR BASIS. Now if the Bible had said, "yeah...the moon shall eclipse on 2/20/08 and an earthquake in the land of Nevada on 2/21/08 shall shake the earth" I might buy it.
Reply:Yes and what you just quoted will increase like the birth pangs of a pregnant woman. They will increase in number and magnitude.

Acts 2:20

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come;

Repent and be baptised every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Reply:Um, there have been lunar eclipses and earthquakes constantly since the formation of the solar system a bunch of millions of years ago. Just so ya' know.
Reply:No...that was just the "beginning of sorrows in the book of Mt;24" The really "BIG" stuff is yet to come! You ain't seen nothin yet! (remember the song?) were gonna Rock! "Peace!" (so don't get your underware in a bunch "yet"!) have a nice day! :)
Reply:The Book of Revelation began unfolding the day it was written.
Reply:Probably!

Down through history Jehovah has worked with natural occurrences, that man has trouble putting away.

Take the great flood that some deny happening. A scientist recently located the submerged shoreline of what was the sea level before Noah's flood. 35 feet below currant sea level.
Reply:Unbelievable.

This is neither the first earthquake nor is it the first eclipse we have had.

Superstitious nonsense.
Reply:There is a major earthquake about once per month somewhere in the world, and has been for millions of years.

Revelation is a vengeful rant of a psychotic dreaming of torturing his enemies.
Reply:Yeah!

Of course, Its been unfolding for a millennium and change.

You can connect a whole bunch of disasters to the randomness of that text.

You want a really neat trick, go find yourself a good psychic. They have the "predict-the-future-by-naming -a-bunch-of-random-stuff -that-will-likely-happen" trick down rather well, too.
Reply:yikes, not and earthquake and an eclipse. well golly gee beav, we have never had either or those happen before it must be the end. run, go hide and wait for god to come get you.
Reply:the sun did NOT turn black like sackcloth....
Reply:Even 2000 years ago, men knew of earthquakes (the middle east is a seismically active area), lunar eclipses and solar eclipses. they just hadn't a clue on what caused it, so they often had great fear that it was a bad omen.

5 billion earthquakes , 700 solar eclipses and 900 lunar eclipses later- we're still here.

So, revelations has been wrong hundreds of times before. What makes you think that this time that hallucinogenic induced author that wrote Revelations had a clue?
Reply:Nothing like that happend in the UK, so perhaps its only the US that's screwed. (What a shame)
Reply:Only for the thousandth time. Funny how vague wording gets "fulfilled" all the time, huh? Almost makes it look like purposeful deception.
Reply:The book of Revelation tells what will happen during the last 7 years. (The tribulation and the Great tribulation) The earthquake there was not the GREAT one in rev 6:12. That one will be biger then any in the past.
Reply:Yes, I think you're on to something. Never before since the writing of Revelation has there ever been a lunar eclipse, and certainly never one during one of the HUNDREDS of earthquakes that happen every day.
Reply:The book of revelations is like the writings of Nostradamus - so vague that you can twist it to mean almost anything you like.

No, revelation is not unfolding in front of us.
Reply:The Book of Revelation was written by a man named John (possibly John the Apostle) toward the end of his life. John records a vision he experiences, probably while dreaming or meditating. This vision contains a tremendous amount of symbolism; the same kind of symbolism one would see in a dream, a vision of the spirit world. In fact, the Book of Revelation contains the same symbolism found in the symbols in the Prophet Daniel's dream. All Biblical dreams, such as those of Joseph, Gideon, Daniel, Paul, and Peter, are very symbolic and therefore had a hidden spiritual meaning rather than a literal interpretation of the symbols. Such is the case with the Book of Revelation.

Chapter 4-11: Christ opens the seals of the book in heaven

Literal: John now appears at the throne of God and sees four beasts and twenty-four elders around it. On the throne sits God who has a book with seven seals. John weeps when he learns that no one can open the seals to the book. One of the elders tells John that Christ is able to open the seals. Christ then opens the seals, resulting in many earth changes. The seventh seal unleashes seven angels who sound seven trumpets which are sounded one by one.

Interpretation:

John has a mental awakening when he attains the spiritual level of the superconscious mind, within the throne of his own body. The four beasts are his four lower spiritual center's animalistic desires and the twenty-four elders are the twenty-four nerves from his brain leading to his five senses. The superconscious mind, is now in full control of John's body. The body is symbolized as a book with seven seals which "no one has the ability to open on his own" (Rev. 5:3). Only through the development of the superconscious mind within a person, can these spiritual centers within the body be opened (i.e., spiritually activated).

As each spiritual center within the body is activated, different parts of the body are purified and upheavals of the body occur mentally, physically, and spiritually. The superconscious mind spiritually activates the seventh spiritual center (the Pituitary, the master gland of the body). As a result of this, it becomes "quiet in heaven for one half hour" (Rev. 8:1). This is symbolic of the perfect control of the mind for one half hour through meditation.

The following are some of the symbols of Revelation

SYMBOL / MEANING

Paradise of God -The original consciousness of humanity before its fall into flesh

Tree of Life -The spiritual centers of the body, such as the heart and the pituitary, that becomes perfectly synchronized

Angel of the Church -The intelligent force governing a spiritual center within the body

Satan - The force of self-centeredness, self-gratification, self-indulgence, self-importance, self-righteousness, self-consciousness, self-glorification, self-delusion, self-condemnation, self, ego, the "false god," the "beast"

Book of Life -The collective unconscious record (memory) of all souls

Earth -The physical body

Mountain of fire striking the Earth -The forces within the physical body which are constantly warring within

New Jerusalem - The superconscious mind awakened

Nakedness -The exposure of faults

Seven lamps - The wisdom of the seven spiritual centers within the body
Reply:The Great 7 Year Tribulations

Now why would God implement the Great Tribulations?

· Because when he says he is going to do something (i.e. His prophecies) he is going to do just that. God never lies and always remembers his covenants.

· The world must end.

· To shatter man’s arrogance and sense of security as a ploy to get their attention.

· To end all evil and to punish the wicked

· To inaugurate his new kingdom of righteousness!

· Of course there are other reason and me being human can never know the infinite wisdom of the Sovereign Lord

Of course, an atheist and God haters can never understand God to a degree since they only focus on God’s judgments when it is clear that there is also going to be mercy during these harsh periods we call the Great tribulations.

When will the rapture occur? Nobody knows but God alone, not even his angels know! That is precisely why we all must have Jesus in our hearts as it is written:

Romans 10

8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"[d] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."[e] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[f]

If you do not accept Jesus (know this we do not know the hour of the rapture and that is to say if it happens in our generation!) then you unfortunately will have to experience a period of most egregious suffering and woes. This verse is but a mere appetizer of how painful the Great 7 year Tribulations shall be:

Jeremiah 30

4 These are the words the LORD spoke concerning Israel and Judah: 5 "This is what the LORD says:

" 'Cries of fear are heard—

terror, not peace.

6 Ask and see:

Can a man bear children?

Then why do I see every strong man

with his hands on his stomach like a woman in labor,

every face turned deathly pale?

7 How awful that day will be!

None will be like it.

It will be a time of trouble for Jacob,

but he will be saved out of it

If you read the above graphic verse, you shall surely know that no words can describe the excruciating pain the Great Tribulations shall be, that even men will be writhing in agony as if they are in labor like women.

The Rapture of the Christians and the Crowns and Rewards:

First the Rapture shall occur which means that the true followers of Jesus shall meet in heaven too receive their crowns for their Christian services.

1 Corinthians 15

51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[g]

55"Where, O death, is your victory?

Where, O death, is your sting?"[h] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 4

13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.

These Crowns are not what saves someone but after a Christian is saved by believing in Jesus as said in Romans 10:9 they are giving treasures and rewards for their selfless deeds they did on earth (please note and I shall stress, these works rewards that is are not what saves a person but are “icing-on-the-cake” rewards and incentives after being saved via Jesus). Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is an unconditional covenant forge by God and his sovereign son Jesus and cannot be lost. However your works, treasures, and rewards that you do can either proliferate or be sabotaged and compromised by a lazy Christian who fells him or herself to sins of the flesh. These are following things that can pass through the fire because of a Christian’s GENUINE selfless deeds:

· The base foundation is Jesus the Christ is imperative

· Gold on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)

· Silver on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)

· Costly precious stones on top of the Foundation (Jesus the Christ)

These are the are the following things that shall be incinerated by the fire by a Christian’s lazy selfish deeds, of the flesh and doing good deeds based on arrogance and trying to look good to his fellow man and NOT God:

· Wood

· Hay

· Straw

When these elements are passed through the fire whatever is left the saved person gets that reward. Rewards can be numerous or very few depending on how the saved Christian served God and his brethren selflessly. However even with the loss of rewards he or she is still saved as it is written:

1 Corinthians 3

15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

What that verse above means is similar to the contemporary Cliché:

“He made it by the skin of his teeth!”

Even though a Christian may lose some of his rewards and treasures he or she is still saved!!

Now let us identify the crowns, which are the following:

· Crown of life- AKA the martyrs crown those who died for bearing testimony of Jesus receive this crown

· Incorruptible crown-This is rewarded to Christians that kept their bodies pure and rejected the insatiable appetites of the flesh (i.e. immoral sex, drinking, drugs (sorcery), etc.)

· Crown of righteousness-this is giving to those who keep the faith and anxiously await Jesus return

· Crown of rejoicing*-Those who win peoples souls to Jesus. Not by Guilt, or you-will-go-to-hell but by love and obedience and by living by example not lip service hypocrisy

· Crown of joy*-AKA the Shepherds crown, those who are at full maturity. Those are great teachers like a pastor who uses his spiritual gifts to help to save the unsaved and lost.

*-These are the highest ranking of all the crowns.

The Antichrist:

Then Antichrist shall make his debut. The other names of the Antichrist are the following:

· Beast of the sea

· The abomination that makes desolate

· The king that will do as he pleases

· Tiny horn with eyes of a man that boasts to the God

· The man of lawlessness

· Son of perdition

A forewarning: ANY GUESSESS ON WHO THE ANTICHRIST IS; IS ONLY A FOOLS GAME!!! After the rapture the antichrist shall reveal himself and only the newly converts of Jesus after the rapture that is, shall decipher the name of the beast which is 666. SO IN ESSENCE ANY 666 GUESSING GAMES RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE RAPTURE IS ALSO A FOOLS GAME!!! The Antichrist will be a powerful world leader well versed in all arts. The antichrist myriads of talents to name a few are the following:

· Oratorical genius (Great speaking ability that entrances the human ears i.e. Hitler)

· Intellectual Genius

· Commercial Genius

· Military Genius

· Administrative genius

· Religious genius

· Powers of Satan

Israel’s Folly:

The Great 7 year tribulation does not happen when the rapture happens as most are commonly mistaken but only when the Antichrist forges a 7-year peace treaty so that all nations even the Arabs would recognize them as a sovereign state. As such, Israel shall pay dearly for seeking security with the grave Isaiah 28:14-15.

Israel’s Terms under the Antichrist’s Covenant:

Once Israel makes this foolish covenant with the antichrist, the terms of the deal are the following:

· Israel is given peace (False peace)

· The Jerusalem Temple is now under Israeli sovereignty on the Dome on the rock

· They are allowed to rebuild Solomon’s Temple long at last

· Israel must tear down their walls that borders their country

The Seven Seals of the Scroll:

Once Israel puts their trust into the Antichrist and not GOD, the GREAT TRIBULATIONS NOW COMMENCE. The seven seal of the scroll could not be opened by anyone except Jesus:

· 1st Seal-The antichrist; notice his bow but not an arrow; he will win the world power through peace and diplomacy.

· 2nd Seal-A great war shall break out. Some speculate this is a symbol of the Antichrist’s other true persona of pure evil and a man who has a penchant for a bloodbath.

· 3rd Seal-Famine as a result of war; a family will barely have the money to feed themselves so they must resort in buying cheap innutritious food to feed everyone thus the mention of barley. Wheat in those days is but a luxury few can afford. The oil and wine are not touch because they are the r
Reply:I do not think that when the moon is to be the colour of blood it mean a normal eclipse.

I think it will be from some other horrid thing like nuclear fallout.
Reply:yes it is and the catholic church is the beast of rev 13

jesus will supposably come in 2011 dont thumbs down plz just look it up for your self

many bad things wil happen in the coming years

Isn't it time we had a roll call vote on ANWR?

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After Clinton vetoed a bill allowing us to drill in ANWR in 1995, the debate has continued. Republicans constantly being stopped by the Democrats, who are beholden to the liberals and Green lobby.

Only 2,000 acres of the 10-02 Area are to be used for the permanent infrastructure -- the pipelines, oil wells, etc. The10-02 Area is neither a refuge nor wilderness and definitely not scenic despite constant claims to the contrary by the Green Lobby.

The United States Geological Survey has estimated ANWR holds a mean estimate of 10.4 billion barrels of recoverable oil. This would be the equivalent of a "Prudhoe Bay II."

Within a few years, an additional million barrels a day could be flowing to West Coast refineries. And if President Clinton hadn't vetoed ANWR legislation in 1995, that oil would be flowing today." ANWR's development can help to lessen our dependence on foreign oil; so also would the careful opening of other protected onshore and offshore sites.

Isn't it time we had a roll call vote on ANWR?
Of course we need a roll-call vote on ANWR. Any senator who votes against ANWR may claim to care what you're paying for gasoline, but doesn't actually care and has his or her head in the sand. The superpowers of the 21st century will be the ones who provide for their own needs at or near energy independence. America needs a plan so that we can stop being beholden to the likes of Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for our fuel needs.

We need to open drilling in ANWR; in currently banned offshore areas on both the Atlantic and the Pacific Coasts; AND the Eastern Gulf of Mexico. We need to explore drilling in other onshore areas of the U.S., most notably in the highly promising Bakken Formation in North Dakota and Montana. AND we need to quicken the quest for alternative energy sources to be phased in at the same time as our ability to drill for the oil that's domestically recoverable declines in future decades.

America's ongoing strength as a country depends on our ability to remain world leaders in providing a full portfolio of energy availability for our great multifaceted economy -- NOT to lay waste to that same economy which would destroy countless lives and jobs and take our greatest contributions to the world off the table. The time to act on a new multi-pronged Energy Production Revolution in this country has arrived -- we are being pressed upon to act, and we need to be fully up to this new national challenge.
Reply:Sure. But the answer will still be no. Instead of drilling new holes. Let's lead the planet in research, developement ,and innovation of alternate energies.
Reply:Theree are literally trillions of barrels of oil still sitting untouched under Texas, Oklahoma, Nevada, and Arizona. Why go all the way to Alaska?
Reply:Just wondering what the motive is behind the veto.
Reply:I say no drilling. We need to be FORCED to come up with alternate sources of energy. It won't happen until we are forced to.
Reply:DIG, DIG DEEP, DIG DEEPER, DON'T STOP DIGGING.
Reply:Why continue to use a resource as dirty and inefficient as oil. Sure we would have oil for now, but what about a few years from now, then what? Maybe instead of trying to suck every last drop of oil out of this planet we should try to find an alternative energy source. It makes absolutely no sense to drill in such untouched land like Alaska. We need to at least keep some nature on this planet. And with these gas prices rising, it will hopefully force the people on this planet to find new technology.

How will this information be helpful to you or those around you?

2009-11-15T18:48:00.001-08:00

Working as part of the National Science Foundation's West Antarctic Ice Sheet Divide (WAIS Divide) Ice Core Project, a team of scientists, engineers, technicians, and students from multiple U.S. institutions have recovered a 580-meter (1,900-foot) ice core -- the first section of what is hoped to be a 3,465-meter (11,360-foot) column of ice detailing 100,000 years of Earth's climate history, including a precise year-by-year record of the last 40,000 years.

The dust, chemicals, and air trapped in the two-mile-long ice core will provide critical information for scientists working to predict the extent to which human activity will alter Earth's climate, according to the chief scientist for the project, Kendrick Taylor of the Desert Research Institute of the Nevada System of Higher Education. DRI, along with the University of New Hampshire, operates the Science Coordination Office for the WAIS Divide Project.

WAIS Divide, named for the high-elevation region that is the boundary separating opposing flow directions on the ice sheet, is the best spot on the planet to recover ancient ice containing trapped air bubbles -- samples of the Earth's atmosphere from the present to as far back as 100,000 years ago.

While other ice cores have been used to develop longer records of Earth's atmosphere, the record from WAIS Divide will allow a more detailed study of the interaction of previous increases in greenhouse gases and climate change. This information will improve computer models that are used to predict how the current unprecedented high levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activity will influence future climate.

The WAIS Divide core is also the Southern Hemisphere equivalent of a series of ice cores drilled in Greenland beginning in 1989, and it will provide the best opportunity for scientists to determine if global-scale climate changes that occurred before human activity started to influence climate were initiated in the Arctic, the tropics, or Antarctica.

The new core will also allow investigations of biological material in deep ice, which will yield information about biogeochemical processes that control and are controlled by climate, as well as lead to fundamental insights about life on Earth.

Says Taylor, "We are very excited to work with ancient ice that fell as snow as long as 100,000 years ago. We read the ice like other people might read a stack of old weather reports."

The WAIS project took more than 15 years of planning and preparation, including extensive airborne reconnaissance and ground-based geophysical research, to pinpoint the one-square-kilometer (less than a square mile) space on the 932,000-square-kilometer (360,000-square-mile) ice sheet that scientists believe will provide the clearest climate record for the last 100,000 years.

With only some 40 days a year when the weather is warm enough for drilling -- yesterday's temperature was a balmy -15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit) -- it is expected to take until January 2010 to complete the fieldwork.

For the project, Ice Coring and Drilling Services of the University of Wisconsin-Madison built and is operating a state-of-the-art, deep ice-coring drill, which is more like a piece of scientific equipment than a conventional rock drill used in petroleum exploration. The U.S. Geological Survey National Ice Core Laboratory in Denver designed the core handling system. Raytheon Polar Services Corporation provides the logistical support. The NSF Office of Polar Programs-U.S. Antarctic Program funds the project. The core will be archived at the National Ice Core Laboratory, which is run by the USGS with funding from NSF.

How will this information be helpful to you or those around you?
Not very much. Ice core data is very speculative and includes a lot of assumptions. Another good idea for scientists to predict future climate change and keep them employed in a job. This is a classic example. The worse the predictions the more money they will pour into the project. More money for the scientists who would other wise not have a job. I wish I was on a project like this. Free money for guessing past climates.
Reply:It will help with understanding possible drivers behind global warming. I might add though, that 'unprecedented' is not a word I would apply to the current levels of CO2 - I suspect the Earth has had higher levels of CO2 in the distant path - certainly in historical times, the levels are much higher than in the past, but the Earth has had similarly high levels of carbon dioxide in its past...

Do you think the polar bear should be added to the Endangered Species List?

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At the moment, the world’s polar bear population appears to be stable. However, we know that polar bears rely on arctic sea ice to hunt, and that this sea ice has been melting at faster and faster rates in the summer.

"The US Geological Survey predicts that it will fall by two-thirds by 2050 if the Arctic ice where the animals live continues to shrink."

"There are “reservations” to be digested, he said, including questions raised by Alaska’s Republican governor, Sarah Palin.

Palin, 42, favours expanding the oil business. She says polar bears could be protected under existing laws without undermining the Alaskan economy."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/en...

Basically nobody is disputing that global warming will soon cause polar bear populations to decline, but some groups don't want to put it on the Endangered Species List because we don't know what actions would result. For example, it could justify regulating CO2 emissions nationwide.

Do you think the polar bear should be added to the Endangered Species List?
Based off of the latest reasearch, I would vote yes.

Excerpt from US Geological Survey (released 9/7/2007)...

"Future reduction of sea ice in the Arctic could result in a loss of 2/3 of the world's polar bear population within 50 years according to a series of studies released today by the U.S. Geological Survey. "
Reply:No sooner than the Golden Trout, the Mountain Yellow-Legged Frog, and hundreds of other threatened species that the Fish and Wildlife Service no longer has adequate funding to monitor or list as endangered. I met with one FWS manager last year who has seen her staff of biologists reduced from 6 to 1.

As of September 25, 2006, there were 279 candidate species. Just because polar bears make cuddly stuffed animals doesn't mean they should be listed first.

Listing is also pointless while recovery programs remain seriously underfunded:

“The Endangered Species Act has been tremendously successful at protecting species from extinction and setting them on the path to recovery once they are added to the endangered list,” said Melissa Waage with the Center for Biological Diversity. “However, the Bush administration’s consistent underfunding of key Fish and Wildlife Service endangered species programs is a roadblock to further progress on endangered species’ recovery.”

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/swcbd...

The Bush adminstration has had the lowest listing rate and the highest delisting rate of any presidential administration in the past 40 years:

http://www.stopextinction.org/site/c.epI...

The Bush administration is the only presidency in the history of the ESA to have not listed a single species except in response to petitions and/or lawsuits by scientists and citizen groups.

The Bush administration is the only presidency in the history of the ESA to have declared that a species is going extinct, but should not be listed because it is Ainsignificant.@ It has done so three times (Puget Sound orcas, Lower Kootenai River burbot, and Western gray squirrel (WA population).

The Bush administration has issued 49 negative listing decisions (including seven “Warranted But Precluded” findings) and listed only 40 species. This ratio is unmatched by any other administration. Seventeen (35%) of the 49 positive 90-day and 12-month findings were to delist or downlist species.

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So if we don't need orcas, why do we need polar bears?

What's the point of listing any species if the funds and staff are insufficient to implement a recovery plan? What would the FWS plan be to restore Arctic ice sheets (on a budget of a couple of million dollars)? It's just money down the drain. Talk of listing them looks like speculation and seems to be driven by public opinion, not science (including immediacy of the threat and the odds of recovery success).

No, if we're going to keep the Endangered Species Act at all, the Fish and Wildlife Service needs to be adequately funded and needs to make rational, not political or popular, decisions.

Unfortunately the current adminstration has seriously undermined and corrupted the listing and recovery process. Anyone remotely resembling the current administration needs to be kicked as far out of office as we can boot them.

Fortunately the level of support for environmentally conscious Republicans such as Schwarzenegger and McCain has shown that there are a lot of moderate Republicans who value the environment, and it's not a case of having to choose one political party or the other simply to have reasonable and sane environmental policy.
Reply:Absolutely not ! polar bears evolved from the brown bear some 200,000 years ago, they have managed to survive

without man's aid until today, in all that time, the only threat to them was being almost wiped out by hunting in the recent past. They survived the Inter-glacial period which saw no Arctic ice cap, and which was about 5.5 deg C warmer than it is today.
Reply:It would be rediculous to put polar bears on the endangered species list without knowing they are endangered. I am sure that someone like you who has lived in the big city all their life (I would be shocked if that were not true), may not realize that animals all struggle to survive. Most polar bears die in their first year of life. Most don't live very many years. They often starve if the winters are too severe or if they can't find enough food. That is how it is, always has been, and always will be. You may pretend that global warming is going to be a struggle for polar bears and it is certainly possible, but you seem to be ignorant of the struggle for survival that is the real life for practically every wild animal, particularly the polar bear. They survived through previous warming periods. They are doing fine now. Any predictions of doom and gloom are just that, predictions. In my opinion, they are predictions with very little merit.
Reply:Sure, but just let me have a chance for a seasonal raffle.The ones in the wild are doing so much better then those in captivity.Why the EMO approach...?

Edit:(JS),get over it, everyone knows hunters and fishermen contribute more to the well being of conservation then any government agency....your not going to fool anybody with that.
Reply:I thought they were on the list.

Yes.
Reply:NO I DO NOT.
Reply:They should be put in the list because they are already endangered...
Reply:Won't the alarmists be amazed when the mighty polar bear adapts its hunting style instead of rolling over and dying. These things hunt EVERYTHING.

Edit: (Do you trust SeaWorld?)

http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info...

"When other food is unavailable, polar bears eat reindeer, small rodents, seabirds, waterfowl, fish, eggs, vegetation (including kelp), berries, and human garbage."

http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/polar.h...

"The primary food source for the polar bear is seals. It also eats fish, seabirds and sometimes reindeer. In the summer, the polar bear may also eat berries and other plants."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...

"Found throughout Arctic regions, the polar bear can swim miles from land or ice packs. Seal constitutes the majority of the polar bear's diet, but the bears aren't picky eaters: They will also eat fish, seaweed, caribou, grass, birds, and even stranded whales."

Edit: Do I REALLY have to stipulate the bears don't eat dirt, rocks, or their own poo (normally)? Would you have preferred opportunistic omnivores? Does your degree cover biology, zoology, and ecology, too? You honestly believe these alternative food sources are only found on the ice flows? Thanks for answering MY question, though....you obviously WILL be amazed when they keep on thriving without the ice.
Reply:I agree with eric. i care for the polar bears, the environment, and everything that comes with it. but the endangered species list is for endangered species, not species that might become endangered.
Reply:yes i think they should be added to the endagered list.
Reply:Polar bears should go on go on the list because (as you said) the polar icecaps are melting and it is getting harder for them to get to land. Usually they swim from pieces of ice in the ocean but with less ice out there, they have to swim longer and some are dying trying.
Reply:Until the numbers really start going down than yes something should be done.

Not just because someone has a theory about what may or may not happen.
Reply:They have survived warmer periods. They'll survive this one. You say their population is stable but the sea ice has been shrinking all this time?

Are you sure it's not speculation that disappearing ice will hurt them? They can still hunt from the coasts, and besides, the sea ice is making a comeback.

Dana says...

"I suggest watching the Planet Earth series (available on DVD). They had one segment on polar bears, and actually showed one struggling to hunt on thin ice. Another (or possibly the same one) became desperate and was forced to try and attack sea lions, failed, and ended up dying."

That is so ridiculous. A stable population means animals are dying and new ones are being born. That's called nature. Nature is not kind in its treatment of animals. Only the fittest survive--thus improving the health of the population. When a polar bear dies naturally it is usually because of starvation. It's been this way for all time. This leaves room for healthier bears to replace it. If those bears DID die it wasn't because of thin ice. There is ALWAYS thin ice. They died because they were weak. This happens in stable populations. That's why they're stable.

As usual, you blame EVERYTHING bad on global warming (even when it hasn't happened). You've got that religion and you've got it bad.

Jim, you're right about the city-boy peg.
Reply:You do not put on species that might hypothetically be endangered. You put on species that are endangered.
Reply:The truth is some of us would like to gain what ever leverage we can to say enough is enough. The last undisturbed places are down to less than 5% of what has already been claimed by humans for developement and profit.

Let the Polar Bears become a symbol of the out come of this issue one way or the other.

I would choose to stand for the benefit of the Polar Bears based on the precautionary princle...
Reply:The polar bear has existed for thousands of years. It survived glaciers and warmer temps than now.

And, in case you want to know, they have nothing to worry about. The sea ice has come back with a roar.

http://antigreen.blogspot.com/

Yes I know this "is a blog". The typical arguement of the AGW fanatics. They happen to do a nice job of summary and provide NASA graphs.
Reply:I think we should put polarbears ont the Endangered Species List because they need some help living with these ice killers. It is wrong if we don't! We have to make a stand for the polarbears!!!!
Reply:"The US Geological Survey predicts that it will fall by two-thirds by 2050 if the Arctic ice where the animals live continues to shrink"

Absolutely not, in 2050 Arctic Ice will be well past record levels of accumulation, and the last thing human beings will be worried about is polar bears. The US Geological Survey should be preparing the country for a long term global cooling episode, instead of adding to the prophesies of a handful of poorly written computer simulations.
Reply:That would depend upon the standard for determining whether a species is "endangered." Is the standard based upon the size of the population or based upon recent changes in the size of the population?

For example, the polar bear population has increased five-fold since the 1960s, but is still between 25,000 and 30,000.

As for the predictions about what will happen in the next fifty years, think that is all conjecture - especially considering that the prediction you cite is the opposite of what has happened over the last fifty years, during half of which we've already experienced the phenomenon that you say will cause the trend to reverse.
Reply:I think all life on earth should be on the endangered species list. All of life in endangered in one form or another.

shark teeth

How to set yourself for life...?

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Get yourself into a muddy situation, in some way related to the federal Govt, and then sue, sue, sue:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_o...

Gulf War Syndrome. Even the 9/11 rescuers are complaining of hazardous chemicals in the debris of the twin towers. The problem with the bozos that charged FEMA's credit card with Hooter's expenses is that they jeopardize iniciatives like universal health care, unemployment benefits or any measures to help the Third Word poverty we have in our midst.

What about the guy, in a national park, that wandering in the night, fell off a cliff and sued the Geological Survey? Flashlights for everybody, people.

How to set yourself for life...?
To me, the real problem is that companies, institutions and government entities "settle" questionable lawsuits without a fight,thus encouraging more people to sue.

For instance, (without going into details), a female attorney just got my city to pay he $500,000 for "age discrimination," and another $200,00 for some other cause I forget. The city didn't bother to defend itself -- though IMO, they would have won. Consequently, more people will sue.

Accounting help ASAP PLEASE!!!?

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Ontario Resources, a natural energy supplier, borrowed $80 million cash on Nov 1, 2006 to fund geological survey. The loan was made by Quebec Banque under a short-term credit line. Ontario Resources issues a 9 month, 12% promissory note with interest payable at maturity. Ontario Resources' fiscal period is the calendar year.

1)prepare the journal entry for the issuance of the note by Ontario Resources

2) Prepare the appropiate adjusting entry for the note by Ontario Resources on Dec. 31, 2006. (show calculations)

3)Prepare the journal entry for the payment of the note at maturity. (show calculations)

Accounting help ASAP PLEASE!!!?
1)prepare the journal entry for the issuance of the note by Ontario Resources

Nov 1, 2006

Dr Cash $80,000,000

Cr Note payable $80,000,000

2) Prepare the appropiate adjusting entry for the note by Ontario Resources on Dec. 31, 2006. (show calculations)

Dr Interest expense $1,600,000

Cr Interest payable $1,600,000

(being interest on $80m at 12%p.a. for 2 months)

3)Prepare the journal entry for the payment of the note at maturity. (show calculations)

Dr Interest expense $5,600,000

Dr Interest payable $1,600,000

Dr Note payable $80,000,000

Cr Cash $87,200,000

(being repayment of note of $80m plus interest at 12%p.a. for 9 months)
Reply:tell us please, what you will learn if someone else does your homework
Reply:Quebec Banque? Really?
Reply:this is easy

Geography True or False?

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1- we can obtain accurate information about groundwater flowpaths from examining the drill records for domestic wells

2-within the ORM, the Halton Till deposits forms significant aquifers because of the high porosity

3- 3D mapping of the sedimentary facies can yeild useful information about the geology of a moraine, but modelling the aquifer requires only detailed water bealance data from a climate station

4-through the work of the geological survey of canada, canada has conducted comperehnsive groundwater surveys covering the last 25 years, a research program much shorter and less extensive than the RASA program mounted in the US

5- the moraine serves as a groundwater recharge/discharge for apprximately 65 watercourses 35 of which in the GTA

6-recent changes to land use desingation on the ORM have been overwhelmingly negative

7-the towns of richmond hill and aurora represnet hte greatest degree of encroauchment onto the ORM

Geography True or False?
Hello again Aley :)

1) This is true. That is what is pretty much happening right now. Wells are plotted spatially and then their stratigraphy mapped and connected, Its a way to find out how overburden is distrbuted.

2) False, the Halton Till is mainly clayey silt to silt with interbedded sand and silt, its produces mostly an aquitard.

3) I would have to say this is false. There are several ways to determine the inflow/outflow and hydraulic connectivity of aquifers and takes more than just detailed water balance.

4) RASA started in '78 and ended in '95 so it spanned 17 years. I am not very familiar with the RASA program, but I am familiar with the USGS and in my opinion, it is likely more indepth as Canadian efforts are generally fragmented and inadequate.

5) This is true, about 65 rivers begin in the oak ridges Moraine. Humber, Credit, Don, Holland are all common ones that most people have heard of

6) True AND False. Some developers were upset, alot of home owners were happy.

7) True, you could add King City and Stouffville in there as well.
Reply:Best way to repay me is to pass on the help to others and not let this knowledge go to waste. The ORM is a vital landform in the southern Ontario and many people do not understand it fully. Report Abuse

Reply:That will be done! Thank you, once again! Report Abuse

Reply:Ummm..true, false, false, true, true, false, and true :)

Will the 4.3B barrels of oil discovered in N. Dakota help us, or will the envirowhackos ruin this for America?

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"An area of shale and other rock in North Dakota and Montana is estimated to hold the largest potential oil resources in the 48 contiguous states, according to an assessment released Thursday by the United States Geological Survey.

The area, known as the Bakken Formation, might contain 3 billion to 4.3 billion barrels of oil that could be extracted using current technology, the survey said. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/us/11o...

Will the Libs not let us drill this and keep us hooked on foreign oil?

Will the 4.3B barrels of oil discovered in N. Dakota help us, or will the envirowhackos ruin this for America?
They do not like Nuke power, they do not like coal, oil natural gas.

So what is their solution. They have none.

The democrats complained when gas prices were going up when the Republicans were in charge, well now they are in charge. What are they doing to help the American people. The on thing they could do is lower the federal tax on fuel.

But no they want to tack on 50cents a gal.

Way to go plastic face polosi and dingy harry.
Reply:They are drilling it... but Oil shale is very difficult to drill and extract oil from.

Its really only viable when the price is around +$90 a barrel.
Reply:It is barely economical to to extract the oil from the shale at current prices. How many years will 4.3 b barrels sustain the US? Not very many.

You can't drill the shale out, it's a rock. I have a chunk sitting in my backyard, it does not have oil oozing out of it. Some companies mine it and then process it, basically need to get it to a high temperature and separate the oil from the rock. I think it was Shell was working on a way to heat it up underground, sounds like an environmental disaster just waiting to happen to me.
Reply:The tree huggers will spoil it for everybody. I say drill, drill, drill.
Reply:It would help and they will ruin it.
Reply:Why bother sticking with 19th century technology now that we're in the 21st century? Sure you can convert shale into oil, but its expensive and it uses a lot of water that can't be reclaimed except at a high cost and the waste products of burning anything isn't exactly a hot number for the environment. Besides, it puts off the end game for oil only briefly. Of course the old war cry that these non-existant 'libs' don't want us to do this or that is just some goofy propaganda business....you can blame the strawman for anything. Let's see who's FOR this conversion business. Oil companies? Duh! Getting subsidies and tax breaks and any number of environmental passes are what these guys do...beside retarding what most people understand is the real need. In other words, follow the money! 21st century technology could keep the wheels on the road with far less environmental damage. So why not use these tax advantages, subsidies and the power of government purchase to make that happen? Somehow staying in this oil trap for a few more decades at the most doesn't seem like a tradeoff we can afford. We need to move forward. Moving forward means 'change', and change is the last thing the Oil Mafia wants to see! No kiddin'!
Reply:Actually, tree huggers need trees to, um, hug.

This is North Dakota, remember. XD

Maybe a buffalo or somethin'.
Reply:In 1979/80 I learned to drive a truck while employed moving oil drilling rigs in western North Dakota and eastern Montana. There was a heck of an oil boom going on then. A lot of it had to do with tax regulations. There was and is a whole lot of oil up there. And also right across the border in Canada. But interestingly, I suppose due to tax regulations, no pipelines were being built. Just a little tank next to the pump (after the drilling rig was moved to drill another hole somewhere nearby). Every once in a while a tanker truck would remove the oil from the tank. In other words, a token.

I have asked since then and that oil is still in the ground. I'm no expert on it, but it would seem that the old fashioned American ideal of finding oil, pumping it out and selling it, is less important in the grand scheme of things than the structure of the tax system(s) and probably a million other regulations, policies, incentives, etc.

Dealing with shale or sand oil is different environmentally, it's a lot more messy to deal with. But the good news is that the Buffalo are gone and the badlands bordering those States don't have any endangered species. The bad news is ground water. Lots of it up there, underground water. Extracting oil causes problems with that. Maybe that will be their hook to prevent production.

I just need to mention that high gas prices are not due to lack of supply. Gas costs a lot more lately because the banks (aka Federal Reserve, which is not government, but banks) have been rapidly inflating the currency. So it takes more dollars to buy the same amount of oil. It's not supply/demand, inventories are full. It's inflation. So blame our own bankers, not OPEC. Prices have not risen in Europe as they have here because they begin with Euros, convert them to fednotes, buy oil. It's just Americans who are the frog in the slowly heating water.

Personally I'd like to see 2 Nuclear power plants go up in every State over the next 5 years. Have a Manhattan project to invent a better battery, way of storing it for cars, etc. Take America all electric. Way less greenhouse gasses and waste heat, way more energy independence.

loan rates

Geography - True or False?

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Anti-spanking campiegn?

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It has been going on since 1750 before William Logan done the geological survey of Canada.

It was meant to be that he named that mountian after the person who died by freezing to eeath in Yellowknife, Canada

All 257 years of battling was done against Northern Cyprus and all the people who are control freaks, by a man from the spirit realms.

The great plan was layed.

Those are the ones that say "A bit of exersise will do you good", "It never done me any harm", "That'al teach ya", and premote and glorify all the things that are old fashioned.

They come from Turkey.

It was all about synchronisity and co-incidence, that which gives a deeper meaning to things that was to lead to his suicide to stop other suffering from the abuse.

The mountian in Canada's highest peak and there are other mountains, Wolf Mountian (Alaska), Wolverine Mountian, Wolf lake and so on; another co-incidence with the cartoon charactor Wolverine.

Also a spiritual relation with wolves.

Are you glad?

Anti-spanking campiegn?
I'm ecstatic..............but disheartened that there was no spanking
Reply:Well I have a toddler who can bounce off the wall at times and it's hard to not spank when the do something that's unsafe and wrong. I've been reading this book that says to "never spank in anger" And I agree by that 100% You shouldn't spank a child when your frustrated, but to do it when they are doing something unsafe or that shouldn't be allowed. For example: not to touch a burning candle, or throw food on the ground. There are types of things that should not be allowed.
Reply:I'm sorry, but I don't understand what this has to do with spanking... I must be dumb
Reply:You know the bible says if you spare the rod you spoil yhe child. What does it have to do with spanking?
Reply:What the hell does Cyprus, mountains, %26amp; nature have to do with spanking a child? It makes no sense...
Reply:Didn't get it either. Mom to 3.
Reply:Red...come on dude. You should be spanked for wasting my time reading that crap.
Reply:we should look to Norway for guidance on abuse.in Norway spanking children and circumcising children is illegal.the outcome is that Norway has the least violent society of all.
Reply:You need therapy to get over the fact you were spanked or something because your incoherent ramblings about spanking make no sense at all.
Reply:I'm sorry but your bad grammar and horrible spelling in this strange story has what to do with spanking? Heck, what does it have to do with anything?

I want to be a English Assistant?

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I want to be a English Assistant

Indonesia rattled by strong quake

1 hour, 27 minutes ago

JAKARTA, Indonesia - A powerful earthquake struck western Indonesia on Saturday, geological agencies said, but there were no immediate reports of damage or injuries.

The temblor had a preliminary magnitude of 6.2 and was centered 65 miles from Sibolga, a city on Sumatra island, the U.S. Geological Survey.

The Indonesian geological agency did not issue a tsunami warning.

Indonesia, the world's largest archipelago, is prone to seismic upheavals due to its location on the so-called Pacific "Ring of Fire," an arc of volcanos and fault lines encircling the Pacific Basin.

In December 2004, a massive earthquake struck off Sumatra and triggered a tsunami that killed more than 230,000 people in a dozen countries, including 160,000 people in Indonesia's westernmost province of Aceh.

译文（该文章英文原文来自美联社2007年12月1日的报道）

印度尼西亚发生强烈地震

印度尼西亚雅加达- 周六一场强烈的地震袭击印度尼西亚西部地区，但是地质探测机构表示，到目前没有人员伤...

美国地质调查局表示，这场地震刚开始发生在苏门答腊岛上的一个城市实武牙市中心6...

事前印尼地质探测机构没有发出海啸警报。

印度尼西亚是世界上最大的群岛，经常发生地震是由于它的位置正处在所谓的太平洋"... ，也就是被一个弧形的火山和断层线环绕着的太平洋盆地。

2004年12月，一场大地震袭击了苏门答腊并且引发了巨大的海啸，在十几个地区...

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I want to be a English Assistant?
what does that have to do with the earthquake thing?

Help please!?

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7. This division is in charge of US oil reserves, all mining activities, oil drilling, and natural gas extraction procedures. (1 point)

US Geological Survey

US Fish and Wildlife Service

Bureau of Reclamation

Mineral Management Service

For questions 8–11, identify the agency that each statement best describes.

8. This agency was implemented to develop regulations for a more efficient and safe national transportation system. It is in charge of all forms of transport systems and vehicles. It has improved the safety standards for rail service, commercial jets, and for American ships. (1 point)

Bureau of Land Management (BLM)

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

The Department of Transportation (DOT)

The Department of Energy (DOE)

9. This is a division of DOI, in charge of the health, biodiversity, and control of the use of public lands and reserves. It regulates cattle grazing on public lands, controls populations of wild burros and horses on reserves, and is in charge of keeping records on native and endemic species. (1 point)

Bureau of Land Management (BLM)

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

The Department of Transportation (DOT)

The Department of Energy (DOE)

10. This Agency was established by Congress to oversee all aspects of pollution, including contamination, environmental clean up, hazardous waste spills, and pesticide use. They research solutions, policy development, and regulation enforcement. (1 point)

Bureau of Land Management (BLM)

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

The Department of Transportation (DOT)

The Department of Energy (DOE)

11. This agency is in charge of finding reliable energy sources. The amount of energy fuels coming from foreign oil, coal, and other fossil fuels is required to be reduced over the next ten years. Replacement fuels and technologies are part of their research and development division. They are currently looking into renewable and environmentally compatible wind power, solar energy, and biomass energy sources. (1 point)

Bureau of Land Management (BLM)

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

The Department of Transportation (DOT)

The Department of Energy (DOE)

12. The slash and burn system of deforestation reduces the number of oxygen producing trees and puts more carbon in the air. (1 point)

True

False

13. Illegal hunting and fishing practices are still occurring globally. (1 point)

True

False

14. Some poor countries sell off their natural resources or accept toxic waste from other countries in order to improve their economy. (1 point)

True

False

Help please!?
This looks very much like your homework. You should attempt it yourself. That is the only way you will learn. Each part of learning is the building block for the next stage. You are cheating yourself if you don't at least attempt this because you will get more and more lost, less able to do the next task.

Please, when you hand your work in, tell your teacher you found it hard and that you would like some help. That way, he/she will help you and you will soon be getting A* without needing to cheat by asking on Answers.

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What do you think the cause is, that we having daily earthqaukes every day all over the world?

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All above 5.0?

MANCHESTER, England - The strongest earthquake to hit Britain in more than two decades was felt across large parts of the country early Wednesday, officials said. Some homes had minor damage and one man was injured by a collapsing chimney.

Matthew24:

“For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places

Magnitude 6.4 Earthquake Hits Islands South of Tokyo

A magnitude 6.4 earthquake struck a group of Japanese islands south of Tokyo at 4:54 p.m. local time, the U.S. Geological Survey said

Big quake strikes off Indonesia: seismologists

A strong 6.7-magnitude earthquake struck off Indonesia's Sumatra island early Tuesday, the US Geological Survey said, sparking a local tsunami alert. The quake, the second off Sumatra in 12 hours, struck at 1:06 am (1806 GMT) at a depth of 35 kilometres (22 miles), 164 kilometres southwest of Sumatra's Padang.

What do you think the cause is, that we having daily earthqaukes every day all over the world?
The end of the "Age of Grace" is coming to an end. This will is when the Lord will descend and gather the Body of Christ ( Christians) to meet Him in the air. AKA "The Rapture"

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air : and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The earthquakes are signs of the end times. The last prophecy has been fulfilled. (Israel becoming a nation)

He can come at any time and its is only His in his grace that we are still here to tell the world about what Christ did at Calvary. Are you ready?

Amos 4:12 Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.
Reply:We're fat!! :-)
Reply:Global warming is effecting the earths tectonic plates at an alarming rate because you wont use CFL bulbs
Reply:I agree with you, actually. Of course, unbelievers always say "there have always been earthquakes!" But believers understand that God describes the days leading up to the Tribulation as "birth pains," meaning that the events grow stronger and more painful as time progresses, AND the events come closer together -- just as the pains of a woman in childbirth.

Jesus' description at Matthew 24:4-8 describes a "perfect storm" of violence and seemingly "natural" events that precede the "birth" of the Tribulation. I urge detractors of this prophetic sign to do a bit of research and see that the cyclical nature of earthquakes has, in fact, grown shorter and the intensity much more severe, just like the birth pains of a woman in labor. Because of this, I have no doubts that we are now in the final years before the beginning of the Tribulation.

FYI, the Jews wrote in Bereshit Rabbah XLII:4 that: "If you shall see kingdoms rising against each other in turn, then give heed and note the footsteps of the Messiah." This supports Jesus' reference to nations rising against nations, kingdoms against kingdoms. So this sign has LONG been recognized by believers as important.

EDIT: Jim Pettis, I think you misunderstood C%26amp;C's question. She doesn't imply that one earthquake means "that's it!"
Reply:Prophecy fulfilled!

May you know God's Will!

God Bless You!
Reply:Um...tectonic plate stress and movement? No, can't be that! Must be some ridiculous fake god. LOL, please...
Reply:Tectonic plates crashing into each other. There are literally hundreds of earthquakes every day since they started tracking them

No more earthquakes now then there have ever been we just have a better way of tracking them

Do 5 minutes of real research and you will know that, but then it wouldn't fit your scenario, which is what you really want

Sorry, it's not the end of the world
Reply:What do you think the cause is, that we having daily tides every day all over the world?
Reply:I think it might have something to do with having 300 sextillion tons of matter in various states, inertial vectors and energy potentials, all in rotation, a sun that only heats and gravitates on one side of the planet at any one time, and an orbiting moon that also exerts tidal force. But I suppose it could be Jesus too.
Reply:Plate tectonics. I don't get your point about Matthew 24? These are the end times is that it? "I shall never leave nor foresake you, I shall be with you until the end of time." The ressurection marks the begining of the EPOCH called the end of time or the endtimes?

Read the Bible with a good catholic commentary.

Do you still have your Y2K rations?
Reply:Movement of the tectonic plates.

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Oh but plate tectonics is one of those "just theories" isn't it?
Reply:Tectonic plate shifts. Duh.
Reply:This is a common misconception. If you examine the evidence - say, from the U.S. Geological Survey, which records *all* earthquakes and has done so for decades - you will find that there are no more earthquakes now than there were 40 years ago. Indeed, your own evidence - the largest earthquake in more than 20 years - should provide a quite telling clue: 20+ years ago, there was a larger earthquake at the same location. If you go back farther in time, you will almost certainly find even larger earthquakes have been recorded.

http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/im...

Now, since the largest earthquake (recorded) was 70+ years ago, can we conclude that *this* recent earthquake signifies the sudden onset of the end of the world? Of course not.

We, as Christians, are much more likely to die tomorrow than to see the return of Jesus tomorrow. *When* the end arrives is not the least bit important, only that we are prepared for it.

Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/
Reply:Tectonic plates. Earthquakes have been going on for quite some time.

I felt the earthquake you mentioned. It made my bed shake a little. I bet it wouldn't have even made the papers had it happened on your side of the pond. If that's a harbringer of the Apocalypse, we're in for a pretty dreary End times.
Reply:you answered your own ?
Reply:These are Labor pains as the Earth is evolving to make way for the meek to inherit.
Reply:us humans have probably messed things up again........
Reply:ahh...quoting the "holy book".earth quakes are nothing new.in 1880 volcano eruption "vanished" the entire island and volcano itself,generating tsunami which killed ten of thosand in sumatra indonesia.60000 years in now danau toba of sumatra,volcano eruption send the earth back to mini ice age and wipe of many major species.everyday hundreds of earthquakes are recorded worldwide
Reply:Honey, you answered your own question. The Bible tells us what to ecpect in the last days. People had better wise up and start looking up. Their timre draweth nigh and Jesus will come soon. Are you ready? Where will you spend all eternity?
Reply:Some seismologists believe that the earth is now in an active earthquake period. For example, Professor Keiiti Aki of the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology speaks of “the apparent surge in intensity and frequency of major earthquakes during the last one hundred years,” though stating that the period from 1500 through 1700 was as active.

In the Italian journal Il Piccolo, of October 8, 1978, Geo Malagoli observed:

“Our generation lives in a dangerous period of high seismic activity, as statistics show. In fact, during a period of 1,059 years (from 856 to 1914) reliable sources list only 24 major earthquakes causing 1,973,000 deaths. However, [in] recent disasters, we find that 1,600,000 persons have died in only 63 years, as a result of 43 earthquakes which occurred from 1915 to 1978. This dramatic increase further goes to emphasize another accepted fact—our generation is an unfortunate one in many ways.”

How We Know We Live in the “Last Days”

An entire system of things is to pass away. How can we be certain it is in our day?

THE “last” of anything means the final part, the finish, the end. For example, the last day of the week means the final twenty-four hours that bring the week to a conclusion.

When the Bible speaks of the “last days,” it has reference, not just to days of a week, but to something far greater. When 2 Timothy 3:1 states that “in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here,” it refers to a period of time marked by catastrophic events world wide. It means that all elements of this system of things, the political, the military, the economic, the social and the religious, would be nearing their cataclysmic finish.

As the last day of a week has a definite beginning and a definite end, so the “last days” of this entire system of things have a definite beginning and a definite end. During that limited span of time world events are to build rapidly toward a climax. That climax will come when God himself brings to an end this wicked system and replaces it with one that is good. The Bible promises: “There are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.”—2 Pet. 3:8-13.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW?

But how can we know when the world has reached its “last days”? Apart from Bible chronology, is there any way to determine for a certainty which period of time will see the end of this present system of things?

In the first century the disciples of Jesus wanted to know that too, so they pointedly asked him what would be the sign “of the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matt. 24:3) In answer, Jesus enumerated many of the momentous events that would take place. These events would come together within one generation to identify the “last days” clearly. They would be like the different lines that make up a person’s fingerprint, a print that cannot belong to any other person. The “last days” contain their own unique grouping of marks, or events, forming a positive “fingerprint” that cannot belong to any other time period.

When the many factors are put together, we find that our generation, our day is the one that is identified in the Bible as the “last days.” In fact, in this year 1967 we are actually living in the final part of that time! This can be compared to, not just the last day of a week, but, rather, the last part of that last day.

1914 BEGINS THE “LAST DAYS”

Before describing the “last days,” Jesus cautioned: “You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.” (Matt. 24:6) True to his words, there were many disturbances among nations during the centuries that followed, and the simple fact is that the “last days” did not come during that time.

Then Jesus related some of the events that would mark the “last days.” He stated: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.” Following this “there will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another pestilences and food shortages.” (Luke 21:10, 11) What was Jesus telling his future followers? To look for a disastrous war the dimensions of which were unheard of in history, one that would be accompanied quickly by other disasters, such as disease, food shortages and earthquakes.

Which war was Jesus speaking about? World War I! It was the first war to fill the description he gave, for it included, not just nations, but entire kingdoms, indeed, the entire world. Speaking of World War I, Life magazine stated: “It killed more men than any previous war, and it was the first war to suck in whole nations, including civilians.”1

No previous war in history compared with it. It was so different that historians of that time called it The Great War. Of it, an encyclopedia states: “World War I took the lives of twice as many men as all major wars from 1790 to 1913 put together.” It noted that total military casualties were over 37,000,000, and added: “The number of civilian deaths in areas of actual war totaled about 5,000,000. Starvation, disease, and exposure accounted for about 80 of every 100 of these civilian deaths. Spanish influenza, which some persons blamed on the war, caused tens of millions of other deaths.”2 World War! Pestilences! Food shortages! Just as Jesus foretold!

Yes, 1914 marked the “beginning of pangs of distress,” as Jesus declared. (Matt. 24:8)
Reply:Tectonic plates reverberating globally because of Sin. What else?
Reply:it's the way the world works? plate tectonics, not religion
Reply:The Signs of the time, are not your imagination. If you can't see Revelation beginning to unfold, for the Lord's Second Coming, well your on Gilligan's Island, or something. You should read the Word a little more. Try prayer, from your heart. Tell Jesus you want him in your Life. Ask that He might Guide you unto a Heart that is of Him.
Reply:How can you be so sure that it hit that particular area, the epicentre might have been several hundred miles away from the actual spot.

Though your stats are impressive.
Reply:OMG!!!

THE END IS NEAR!!!

again.....
Reply:Plate tectonics, nothing more. There have always been earthquakes and famines, by the way. Not that hard to predict, so Matthew 24 is evidence of nothing.
Reply:Plate tectonics... read up on it.

Oh, you might need to look up "convection" also :)
Reply:As a Christian and a geography teacher, I agree with all the answers above. We also have more sensitive seismic detection technology, as well the the technology to relay the news to all parts of the world. We hear about more earthquakes than we used to.
Reply:I am guessing you are one of those end of the world kooks. We have only tracked earthquakes closely for less than a hundred years. There have been earthquakes throughout recorded history. Based on current scientific evidence, which likely escapes your intellectual activity, seismic events (earthquakes) are the result of tectonic plates growing, shrinking and overlapping and will happen daily.

In my defense, this is a fairly innoccuos nasty gram, but I really take offense to people who use any forum to spread their version of whatever passes for religion.

I am thinking we need a quake to shake people like you into the abyss so the rest of us can have some peace and quiet.
Reply:Something called tectonic plates. If you took the time and effort to read a science book you will understand as to what causes earthquakes.

Sorry but there is no divine being, god, allah, sky-daddy or whatever you call that guy in the sky causing earthquakes.

Can any one find me a job, do any one need an exploration geologist?

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I am a professional geologist with more than 20 years of experience. I have served the Geological Survey of India, one of the world's premier organizations as senior geologist.

I have vast experience in Geological. Geophysical, Geochemical exploration and surveys, mineral exploration, Geo-technical and Geo-environmental investigations, Land-form mapping and terrain analysis and bore-hole geochemistry.(Bore hole geochemistry is a super specialty through which ore deposits can be found on a sure shot basis)

I have also worked as Head of Office and have sufficient experience in Budgeting, programming, planning, execution and completion of mineral exploration projects.

Can any one find me a job, do any one need an exploration geologist?
With your experience, I bet you can find a job easily.

Various vacancies are offered through the internet, but the best will be to contact companies directly. Look for mining companies and ask them directly.
Reply:My experience appears to be the problem. No company wants to employ a person who is 57 years old. I appreciate all those who answered. However i tried and applied for more than 100 jobs through internet and also directly to the companies. None of these have yielded any result. What should i do? Report Abuse

Reply:I have no commitments and can travel and relocate any where. I am healthy and want to work. Report Abuse

Reply:A friend of mine now works in a geology job in Iceland.

No training or experience. Got the job anyway.

There is a HUGE demand there for people doing geology because of all the geothermal projects there.
Reply:Wow! You seem to have all the necessarry qualifications for a great job with Geology prerequisites. Why are you asking on this forum? This is not a jobs website. With your area of specialization you should be going through the Geological Institute of some international sort. Another idea is to contact some of the oil industries. My uncle was a geological expert in the oil industry in the Western portion of the US. He helped find/predict oil fields and drill sites. Can you use your knowledge in Archeology? How about research at the South or North Pole? Suppose you go to the colleges around you or in other countries that may have job listings? I hope things work out for you.

Which produces more CO2? Volcanoes or human activity?

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ACCORDING TO THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, HUMAN ACTIVITY PRODUCES OVER 150 TIMES MORE CO2 THEN ALL VOLCANIC ACTIVITY COMBINED!

Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.

Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1992). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 22 billion tonnes per year (24 billion tons) [ ( Marland, et al., 1998) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2.]. Human activities release more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of nearly 17,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 13.2 million tonnes/year)!

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/V...

Which produces more CO2? Volcanoes or human activity?
you asked and then answered your own question....get a life.
Reply:Volcanoes do. Also, animal manure does too. Animal waste accounts for 18% of green house gases whereas human activity accounts for only 14%.
Reply:You're right. When Mount Pinetubo exploded in the early 1990s it actually helped cool the planet down a little bit because it blocked out the sun. But man spews billions of tons of co2 into the air every year. And, billions more are going to be spewed because new coal burning plants are being built in the U.S (Texas), China and parts of eastern Europe despite the calls to cut emissions.
Reply:And when major eruptions occur, the CO2 output is equal to that of human degree. Let's also put in the fact that the world's temperature decreased after Pinatubo erupted (and Pinatubo was freaking huge, trust me on this one); what does this tell you about Global "Warming"? Enough CO2 in the atmosphere and you'll have a slight decrease in temperature. Funny that...

Oh, and BTW, 47% of statistics like these are made up right on the spot... just a little reminder that not all stats are true, like this one...
Reply:Gee. I was curious what the answer was. I didn't expect that you'd answer it too.
Reply:remember the apples and oranges?

From a moral, cerebral standpoint, the volcano does not think, humans do. It is useless to count the potential methane content emitted by cattle farts or fissures of the earth crust. When we belch bus bombs at every city corner. We, conscious animals pollute our neighbors backyards with runoff from motorized toys, energy usage and conveniences that end up destroying whatever surroundings we claim to care about.

Scientific language aside, we are ruining our own nature for the will to enjoy this life of ours, under any circumstances.

Even if it kills us slowly. Time to drop the blinders, this is not a conspiracy, folks!

Every action has a separate but equal reaction. i did not invent this law of physics just to irritate, Every action, every car driven today, every object bought today, it is simple, do less, enjoy more, thank you, and watch volcanoes on television if you must.
Reply:5quid - the fact that you have done some research into Mt Pinatubo's eruption makes it all the more surprising that you would misrepresent it so badly.

The drop in temperature as a result of Mt Pinatubo's eruption was in no way related to CO2 output.

Billions of tons of ash were blown into the stratosphere. These produce a cloud like barrier for the sun leading to a temporary cooling.

Your argument in no way changes any arguments regarding greenhouse gasses and global warming.
Reply:man does,the volcano's are just once in a while occurrences,also only some volcano's %26lt;super volcano's%26gt;produce levels of c-02 that is equal to 1-years worth of mans production%26lt;supposedly%26gt;
Reply:You answer your own questions?

Was the Oklahoma Bombing a domestic terrorist attack ? read this and find out .?

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The Oklahoma City Bombing

On April 19th 1995 , a bomb ripped threw the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City , killing 168 men , women and children .

The bomb was blamed on the " people's militias " , Timothy McViegh and Terry Nichols , but the question is did they have a hand in it ? Or was it problem , reaction , solution ? I guess you will have to decide .

First let me explain what exactly is problem , reaction , solution . Problem , reaction , solution is manipulation to the highest degree , for example , say a politician wants to have more cameras in the neighborhood and a more authoritarian police force , well he can't just go out and say there will be more cameras in the neighborhood and a tougher police force , because people would rebel and his plan would have no chance at succeeding . He wants people to demand these things . So you have more high profile crime , you have more news reports all over the area keeping people in fear for their lives . Achieve that and people will demand those cameras and the authoritarian police force . It's as simple as that , you just have to see it before it happens .

Let's move on to the Oklahoma City bombing . In the weeks and months leading up to the Oklahoma City bombing , the American media was constantly talking about how the government was going after these so called militias . The bomb hit and it was blamed on not just a few people but { you guessed it } the whole of the militia movement . What was the governments response ? To use the bomb as an excuse to increase the powers of the F.B.I. to infiltrate and attack these groups and as Bill Clinton put it " to ease restrictions on the involvement of the military in domestic law enforcement " . The goal is to eventually use the military in the streets of America , in place of the police .

The F.B.I. , Bill Clinton and Janet Reno , claim that one explosion destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building , and that the bomb was made by former U.S. soldier Timothy McViegh and Terry Nichols from fertilizer and fuel oil . Ted Gunderson a man with 28 years experience with the F.B.I. believes the official explanation to be both " ridiculous and impossible " . Gunderson and others within the F.B.I. believe that the blast was actually caused by a electro hydrodynamic gaseous fuel device , known as a barometric bomb . To know how to make this bomb you would need clearance at the highest levels of the United States Government and Military combined . The barometric bomb has Q clearance which puts it on a level with security and secrecy with nuclear weapons components . If Gunderson is correct someone like McViegh { who was just a regular foot solider } and the others charged with him , could not possibly have such knowledge or resources , the idea would be ludicrous .

According to Gunderson the bomb was exactly in line with what the barometric bomb would do . It works like this - there is first a explosion and this releases a lethal cloud of chemicals , ammonium nitrate and aluminum silicate . The cloud is energized and there is a second blast seconds later using another explosive called PDTN , which creates an explosion of greater magnitude then TNT . To confirm that this bomb was used and not the fuel oil bomb , there would have to be traces all over the debris and on someone's clothes ........

At a court hearing in El Reno , Oklahoma on April 28th 1995 , the F.B.I. Special Agent , John Hersley , said a shirt McViegh was wearing , when arrested , contained traces of the explosive { wait for it } - PDTN . The Oklahoma Geological Survey at the University of Oklahoma , revealed that there had been two explosions , ten seconds apart . The first explosion went off at 9:02 am and 13 seconds and the second at 9:02 am and 23 seconds . This could not happen in anyway with a fertilizer bomb, for which there is no evidence anyway . Other bomb experts say the official explanation is ridiculous as well . Debris from the Murrah building , was pilled up against the general records office across the street on the other side of the truck , which supposedly exploded with the fuel fertilizer bomb . The only way this could have happened is if there was a bomb inside the building not outside , as the government claimed . The government has consistently increased the size of the fertilizer bomb it claims was built by McViegh , because the size of the bomb and the devastation don't match up . It was first announced that the bomb weighed 1,000pounds ,but this has increased to reach 4,800 pounds and so the vehicle used to carry it , changed quite a bit . The fertilizer bomb would have scattered fertilizer all over the sight , but reports from the day the bomb went off , report " not one ounce of fertilizer was found " . Also Michael J. Riconosciuto revealed to Spotlight , that records and components were stolen in two raids on a well guarded warehouse in Aberdeen , Washington State in 1988 . " On the first occasion the people involved were arrested and let go and on the second occasion the police watched the robbers carry out the raid and yet did nothing " .

So many question's , so little answers . I wonder when this will all be settled and the truth finally comes out . Wait , I forgot , Timothy McViegh is dead and the American people don't care .

Was the Oklahoma Bombing a domestic terrorist attack ? read this and find out .?
I would certainly like to see your sources. It is interesting and I hate to say it, but not outside the realm of reality. It seems that President Clinton liked to "Wag the dog" as a diversionary tactic. I still believe McVeigh was involved, but perhaps he got some training. We will never know I suspect.

A society of sheep must beget a government of wolves.
Reply:I find it very disturbing that sum1 would even question that so many years later. i dont believe n e that u have insinuated at all and it really makes me mad that sum1 would do that. a lot of families lost loved ones in that bombing and u should respect them by not bringing stuff like that up. Report Abuse

Reply:I don't need to read some cut and paste POS article to know it was a terrorist attack. McVeigh was in league with the Muslim terrorists for that bombing. It well documented.
Reply:I do believe McVeigh could know how to make a bomb like that, and I could probably figure it out to.

The sources about the weight change would be interesting to see.

A more likely story is that the FBI/CIA knew about the bombing, but let it happen anyway so they could increase powers. And the nursery was purposely put in a known target, so that the American people would be further outraged. I don't think it's linked with Clinton, I think it goes back to Lyndon Johnson. The same argument could be said for 9/11.
Reply:So whats the need to ask a question?

You answered your question with this.
Reply:violent act? check

intimidate people? check

targeting civilians to achieve political gains? check and check

No matter how bad the FBI did in trying to stop it, it was still a terror attack.

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Three other Irish scientists..........?

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decide to fly a spaceship and to land it on the surface of the Sun to do a geological survey. Upon hearing this Lady Fidgety Fingers the third a brilliant physicist contacted them saying how impressed she was that they had solved the heat problem and wondered how they were going to achieve this. Pat the leader of the group told her that they were going to go at night.

Three other Irish scientists..........?
Lady Fidgety Fingers here Jim.....a very wise decision Pat made :)

Ps. I'm Irish too and I love all the Irish jokes - what's up with those other sados?
Reply:haha, maybe it WAS too hot...
Reply:very good, like it Jim, lol...
Reply:Ha ha nice one. Very Irish!!

:-)))
Reply:Pmsl it's funny!!!!

I'm from a Irish family people won't to loosen up for feck sake !!!!
Reply:lol im irsh well sort of and work in a fss lab so i lol thoes who moan get a life...
Reply:it would be even funnier if it didnt portray my nation as morons.
Reply:Thats funny. 7/10.
Reply:irish are not stoopid. *sniff* but dont get me wrong, its hi-lar-i-ous
Reply:LOL =D
Reply:Wow!! Doesn't anybody have a sense of humor anymore??? I think you just got removed from a few snivelers Christmas list. It was a good joke, funny, and to the point. It's just too bad that some people wouldn't know a joke if it bit them in the a*s!!!!
Reply:funny, but it needs to be a blonde joke, not an irish joke!
Reply:Don't like any joke that makes Irish people out to be stupid, as an Irish person I don't find this funny but offensive.

I need to know places around the world, where ancient hindu temples are found.?

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Well, Mythological stories varified by geological surveys and escavations...

I need to know places around the world, where ancient hindu temples are found.?
Ancient Hindu Temples are usually a Royal place and a Holy place.

a) City of Vishnu (just excavated in Burma, Bagan)

b) Angkor Wat/ Angkor Thom (Siam Reap, Cambodia)

c) Batu Caves (Malaysia)

d) Wat Phou (Pakse Province, Laos)

e) My Son (Quang Nam province, vietnam)

f) Prambanan (Yogyakarta, indonesia)

g) Autthaya of Thailand(full of ancient hindu temples)

h) Full of temples in India and Nepal

Hope this helps
Reply:The most famous is the ANGKOR WAT in Cambodia!
Reply:search india, you'll get all the works, temples with their myths, stories, superstitions, all of it !! All the best
Reply:Nepal
Reply:Studies indicate that you won't find them in the Western Hemisphere, so that narrows your search a bit.
Reply:Burma, Srilanka, Vietnam, Indonesia, Pakisthan and Afghanisthan
Reply:Google and Ask are good ways to begin but you can't trust all their sources but MSN has Encartia which is credible. Just put in search for Hindu temples around the world.

hyperhidrosis

Some more bizarre facts?

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happy reading lol.

*According to sales, 17,000 individual 'smarties' are eaten every minute in the UK

*The life of an eyelash is about 5 months.

*Iceland, Europe's second largest island following Great Britain, boasts of having the world's oldest 'active' parliamentary body, Althing, which first met in 930AD.

*The Turkish football club, Galatasaray, has an A for every other letter.

*The tongue of a mature Blue Whale has approximately the same mass as that of an entire adult elephant.

*The study, which tested telephones, desks, water coolers, doorknobs, and toilet seats, compiled 7,000 samples from major centers across the country. What they found, was that while phones ranked highest in bacteria levels, the office desk was a close second.

*In England during World War I, many German names and titles were changed and given more English-sounding names, including the royal family's from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor. Kaiser Wilhelm II countered this by jokingly saying that he was off to see a performance of 'The Merry Wives of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.'

*Both turdoid and turdine mean "belonging to the family turdus," Turdus musicus is the song thrush %26amp; Turdus viscivorus is the mistletoe thrush

*Nearly a quarter of all mammals can fly; with a huge 985 known species, bats make up 23.1% of all known mammals by species

*January is National Soup Month in the United States, January is the seasonal equivalent to July in the Southern Hemisphere; %26amp; on Jan 14th, 90% of New Year resolutions will be broken!

*You use an average of 43 muscles for a frown and you use an average of 17 muscles for a smile, and they say every two thousand frowns creates one wrinkle

*Baby robins eat 14 feet of earthworms in the first 14 nestling days of their life and that is not even their main food on the menu (14 feet a day is wrong) But parent robins make around 100 food visits to the nest every day!

*The first man to die during planning %26amp; construction of the Hoover Dam was the father of the last man to die during its construction. December 20, 1922 with J.G. Tierney a Bureau of Reclamation employee who was part of a geological survey and drowned when he fell from a barge. Exactly 13 years later, in 1935, his son Patrick W. Tierney, fell to his death from an intake tower.

* You will have to walk 80 kilometers for your legs to equal the amount of exercise your eyes get daily

*The Chinese used fingerprints as a method of identification back in 700

*Sound travels 15 times faster through steel than it does through the air

*A greenfly born on a Tuesday can be a grandparent by Friday

*There are more mobile phones in UK than there are people

*Termites are affected by music; the termites will eat your house twice as fast if you play them loud music

*Paraskavedekatriaphobia is the extreme fear of Friday the 13th

*One gallon of used motor oil can ruin approximately one million gallons of fresh water!

*Christopher Trace, the first presenter of Blue Peter, was the body double for Charlton Heston in the film Ben-Hur

*Thomas Edison got patents for a method of making concrete furniture and a cigar which was supposed to burn forever

*A cubic mile of ordinary fog contains less than a gallon of water

*If you think of the Milky Way as being the size of the continent of Asia, our solar system would be the size of a penny.

*The chicken is the closest living relative to the Tyrannosaurus Rex Myth or fact??

*The average driver will be locked out of their car nine times during their life time (yes, men are in the stats)

*A Boeing 767 airliner contains 3,100,000 parts

* Belief in the existence of vacuums used to be punishable under Church law

* Your skin weighs twice as much as your brain

*An owl can see a mouse moving from over 150ft away by a light no brighter than candlelight

*The average person has walked 100,000 miles by the time they reach the age of 85.

*Your hearing is less sharp after eating too much

*In the course of a lifetime, the average person spends 2 years on the phone (I bet cell phones/mobiles were not taken into consideration when that fact was worked out!!)

* Henry VIII was once served a loin of beef while visiting the house of a noble. He was so impressed with the beef that he asked for a sword and knighted it! Ever since, that particular cut of beef has been known as sirloin. ("Sir Loin").. This is a MYTH

*In a lifetime, the average clean-shaven man will spend five months shaving and will remove 28ft of hair.

*Beethoven was extremely particular about his coffee , he always counted 60 beans per cup.

*In 1943, Navy officer Grace Hopper had to fix a computer glitch caused by a moth, hence the term 'computer bug'.

*Jupiter is large enough to contain the other major 7 planets in our solar system.

*The water pressure inside every onion cell would be sufficient to explode a steam engine.

*Sunglasses were first worn by film stars, not to look mysterious, but to relieve there eyes from the dazzling glare of the early studio lights

*If you take any number, double it, add 10, divide by 2, and subtract your original number, the answer will always be 5.

*Over a 12 day period your body generates a whole new set of taste buds. (This process continues until you are in your 70's.)

*Greyhounds can reach their top speed of 45 mph in just 3 strides

*There is more sugar in 1kg of lemons than in 1kg of strawberries.

*Paraskevidekatriaphobia, is a morbid, irrational fear of Friday the 13th. Therapist Dr. Donald Dossey, whose specialty is treating people with irrational fears, coined the term. He claims, when you can pronounce the word you are cured. Friggatriskaidekaphobia has the same meaning.

*American Airlines saved $40,000 in 1987 by eliminating one olive from each salad served in first class

*Titan arum is probably the world's smelliest flower. Originating in the tropical rain forests of Sumatra, this huge, extremely rare flower is a giant lily. It seldom blooms, but when it does the smell is described as something like the dead carcass of an animal

*A Viking tribe once raided England because they had run out of beer

*Walt Disney World generates about 120,000 pounds of garbage every day.

*Turtles can breath through their bottoms.

*Barbie's full name is Barbara Millicent Roberts.

*The buzz generated by an electric razor in America is in the key of B flat. In the UK, it is in the key of G.

*Some of the most popular lipstick shades in Renaissance England were named, Rat, Horseflesh, Turkey, Blood and Puke.

*When Thomas Eddison died in 1941, Henry Ford captured his dying breath in a bottle.

*Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho" was the first Hollywood film that showed a toilet flushing - thereby generating many complaints.

*The first flying-trapeze circus act was performed by Frenchman Jules Leotard at the Circus Napoleon on Nov 12th 1859. He invented the garment now known as the leotard.

*In 1972 when Gordon Brown (British Chancellor of the Excheque) was 21, he won a Daily Express competition for "A Vision of Britain In The Year 2000."

*It is said, grapefruit scent makes middle age women seem six years younger to men (but it does not work the other way round).

*The average elephant produces 50lb of dung a day.

*The dinosaur noises in Jurassic Park came from slowing down the sounds of elephants, geese and horses.

*The French invented the pop of the Christmas Cracker in the 19th century (Tom Smith bought the idea back to UK after holidaying in France)

*The chances of hitting 2 holes-in-one during the same round of golf is one in 8 million

*Victorian ladies tried to enlarge their boobs by bathing in strawberries

*Until the 18th century, India produced almost all the world's diamonds

*The ancient Egyptians thought it was good luck to enter a house left foot first

*During their marriage, Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton bought an electric chair for their dining room

* The average single man is one inch shorter than the average married man

*Lightning strikes about 6,000 times per minute on this planet of which 80% are in-cloud flashes and 20% are cloud-to-ground flashes.

*When screen lover Rudolph Valentino married Jean Acker (on Bonfire Day), she locked him out of their bedroom, the marriage lasted only six hours

*160 cars can drive side by side on the Monumental Axis in Brazil, the world's widest road. On paper they can, as the road (actually it's an avenue) is 865 feet wide, but in reality they can't.

*When a female horse and a male donkey mate, the off-spring is called a mule; but when a male horse and a female donkey mate, the off spring is called a HINNY

*On average women speak 7000 words per day, where as men speak just over 2000

*Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair

*While in Alcatraz, Al Capone was inmate No.85

*Disney World is bigger than the world's 5 smallest countries

*A house fly hums in the middle octave key of F

*Adolf Hitler's mother seriously considered having an abortion but was talked out of it by her doctor

*In one gram of soil, about ten million bacteria live in it

*A single ounce of gold can be beaten into a thin film covering 100 square feet

*Before the 1800, there were no separately designed shoes for left and right feet

*Paper was invented early in the second century by Chinese eunuch

*The first person to receive a singing telegram was singer Rudy Vallee, in honour of his 32nd birthday, July 28th 1933.

* The longest one-syllable word in the English language is screeched

*In Shakespeare's time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes when you pulled on the ropes the mattress tightened, making the bed firmer to sleep on. Hence the phrase, "Goodnight, sleep tight."

*There are 336 dimples on a regulation golf ball

*A 75-year-old male driver received ten traffic tickets, drove on the wrong side of the road four times, committed four hit-and-run offenses and caused six accidents, all within 20 minutes, in McKinney, TX on 15 Oct 1966 [Worst driver: G. B. of Records]

*The term "the whole 9 yards" came from WWII fighter pilots in the South Pacific. When arming their airplanes on the ground, the .50 caliber machine gun ammo belts measured exactly 27 feet, before being loaded into the fuselage. If the pilots fired all their ammo at a target, it got "the whole 9 yards."

*Wilma Flintstone's maiden name was Shaghoopal

*The word "trivia" comes from the Latin "trivium" which is the place where three roads meet. People would gather and talk about all sorts of matters. Also in medieval universities, the trivium comprised the three subjects taught first, grammar, logic, and rhetoric, AND the Roman Goddess, Trivia, is the goddess of crossroads, witchcraft and the harvest moon.

*In 1935, the police in Atlantic City, New Jersey, arrested 42 men on the beach. They were cracking down on topless bathing suits worn by men.

*During lunch breaks in Carlsbad, New Mexico no couple should engage in a sexual act while parked in their vehicle, unless their car has curtains.

*The distance between cities are actually the distances between city halls. When you see a sign "Sheffield - 40 miles" it means it is 40 miles to the city hall of that city sign

*The name of Canada is believed to come from the Iroquois Indian word "Kanata", meaning "village" or "community". The word Canada was first used in a 1534 text written by Jacques Cartier describing the Indian village of Stadacona.

*The longest non-medical word in the English language is floccipausinihilipilification (29 letters), which means "the act of estimating as worthless."

*Dominica, Mexico, Zambia, Kiribati, Fiji and Egypt all have birds on their flags.

*Bees visit over 2,000 flowers and fly over 55,000 miles to produce just 1lb. of honey

*Four out of every ten people who come to a party in your home will look in your bathroom cabinet

*The taboo against whistling backstage comes from the pre-electricity era when a whistle was the signal for the curtains and the scenery to drop. An unexpected whistle could cause an unexpected scene change!

*The sound you hear when macho people crack their knuckles is actually the sound of nitrogen gas bubbles bursting.

*Francis Bacon died of hypothermia while trying to freeze a chicken by stuffing it with snow

*Captain Jean-Luc Picard's (Star Trek) fish was named Livingston

*The WD in WD40 means "water displacement." The 40 in WD40 comes from the 40 attempts at creating this product.

*Beethoven dipped his head in cold water before he composed.

*Mice, whales, elephants, giraffes and man all have seven neck vertebra.

* The name for Oz in the "Wizard of Oz" was thought up when the creator,

Frank Baum, looked at his filing cabinet and saw A-N, and O-Z, hence "Oz."

*American car horns beep in the tone of F.

*The only food cockroaches won't eat are cucumbers.

*China has more English speakers than the U.S.

*Hong Kong has the world's largest double-decker tram fleet in the world

*The words silent and listen have the same letters. Santa and Satan do too

*You can tell the sex of a turtle by the sound it makes, A male grunts, A female hisses.

*There are no public toilets in Peru.

*Samuel Clemens [aka Mark Twain] was born in 1835 when Haley's Comet came into view. When he died in 1910, Haley's Comet came into view again

*The pound sign is called a 'octothorp.'

*In 1963, baseball pitcher Gaylord Perry remarked, "They'll put a man on

the moon before I hit a home run." On July 20, 1969, a few hours after Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon, Gaylord Perry hit his first, and only, home run

*"Dreamt" is the only word in the English language to end in "mt."

*The Queen termite can live up to 50 years and have 30,000 children every day

*The term, "It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye" is from Ancient Rome. The only rule during wrestling matches was, "No eye gouging," eveything else was allowed.

*A Dalmatian is the only dog that can get gout

*The male gypsy moth can smell the virgin female up to 1.8 miles away

*A male emperor moth can smell a female emperor moth up to 7 miles away

*The human heart creates enough pressure to squirt blood 30 feet out of the body.

*A puff of smoke, such as when someone is smoking a cigarette or a pipe

is called " a lunt "

*The name "Pinocchio" is from Tuscany, Italy and means "pine nut" or "kernel".

*Gilligan of Gilligan's Island had a first name that was only used once, on the never-aired pilot show. His first name was Willy

*It was the left shoe that Aschenputtel (Cinderella) lost at the stairway, when the prince tried to follow her. It was originally the right, but the translator messed up again.

*Cinderella's slippers were originally made out of fur. The story was changed in the 1600's by a translator.

*Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour %26amp; if you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee

*For 47 days in 1961, the painting "Matisse's Le Bateau (The Boat)" was hanging upside down in the Museum of Modern Art in New York. None of the over 116,000 visitors seem to have noticed.

*Walt Disney named Mickey Mouse after Mickey Rooney, whose mother he dated.

*Lorne Greene had one of his nipples bitten off by an alligator while he was host of "Lorne Greene's Animal Kingdom."

*The magic word 'Abracadabra' was originally intended for the specific purpose of curing hay fever.

*The phrase "rule of thumb" was popularized by an old English law which stated that you couldn't beat your wife with anything wider than your thumb top to first joint. (a thumb measurement is an inch)

*More redheads are born in Scotland UK than in any other part of the world

*The Sanskrit word for 'war' means - "desire for more cows".

*The average bed is home to over 5 billion dust mites.

*Only female wasps, bees, and mosquitoes sting.

*Las Vegas means "The Meadows" in Spanish.

*Born on November 2, 1718, British politician, John Montagu, the 4th Earl of Sandwich, is credited with naming the 'sandwich.' He developed a habit of eating beef between slice of toast so he could continue to play cards uninterrupted.

*Ice hockey was first played in 1885 by British soldiers stationed in Canada

*Armored knights raised their visors to identify themselves when they rode past their king. This custom has become the modern military salute.

*Your fingernails grow 4 times faster than your toe nails

*Pain travels faster than 3000 feet per second

*A cow produces 200 times more gas a day than a person

*About 10,000,000 people have the same birthday as you

*The snail mates only once in it's entire life, also a snail has 4 noses

*The Coca-Cola company is the biggest consumer of sugar in the world

*The dot that appears over the letter "i" is called a tittle.

*All major league baseball umpires must wear black underwear while on the job (in case their pants split)

*Captain Kirk never said "Beam me up, Scotty," but he did say, "Beam me up, Mr. Scott"

*The word gymnasium comes from the Greek word gymnazein which means to

exercise naked

*Everyone thought Albert Einstein suffered from dyslexia, because he couldn't speak properly until he was 9 years old.

*Mel Blanc (the voice of Bugs Bunny) was allergic to carrots

*The nation of Monaco on the French Riviera, is smaller than Central Park in New York. Monaco is 370 acres and Central Park is 840 acres

*Gweneth Paltrow's nickname for Steven Speilberg is "Uncle Morty." Steven Speilberg calls Gweneth Paltrow "Gwynnie the pooh."

*You can't kill yourself by holding your breath.

*The sorcerer's name in Disney's Fantasia is Yensid, which happens to be Disney backwards.

*Armadillos are the only animal besides humans that can get leprosy

*The world's longest name is: Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Shermasn Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorft Sr.

*Shirly Temple received 135,000 presents on her 8th birthday.

* When Christopher Columbus and crew landed in the New World they observed the natives using a nose pipe to smoke a strange new herb. The pipe was called a "tabaka" by the locals, hence our word tobacco.

*Americans on the average eat 18 acres of pizza every day.

*The sound of E.T. walking was made by someone squishing her hands in jelly.

*Hitler and Napoleon both had only one testicle.

*Every time you lick a stamp, you're consuming 1/10 of a calorie.

*In ancient China, people committed suicide by eating a pound of salt.

*Queen Victoria [UK 1837-1901] eased the discomfort of her monthly cramps by having her doctor supply her with marijuana.

*The average human eats 8 spiders in their lifetime at night. [usually in our sleep] ~ this is a MYTH

*If you fart consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough energy is produced to create an atomic bomb

*Sugar was first added to chewing gum in 1869 by a dentist (William Semple). One way to assure business!!

*The Ramses brand condom is named after the great phaoroh Ramses II who fathered over 160 children.

*The names of the three wise monkeys are: Mizaru: See no evil, Mikazaru: Hear no evil, and Mazaru: Speak no evil.

*The Spanish word esposa means "wife." The plural, esposas, means "wives," but also "handcuffs."

*23% of all photocopier faults worldwide are caused by people sitting on them and photocopying their butts.

* There was one U.S. state that no longer exists? In 1784 the U.S. had a state called Franklin, named after Benjamin Franklin. But four years later, it was incorporated into Tennessee.

*The clinical term for a hairy buttocks is "daysypgal."

*A duck's quack doesn't echo, and ... no one knows why.~ MYTH everything echoes. University students have recorded a ducks echo. It is usually so quiet we cannot hear it.

*"The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" is said to be the toughest tongue twister in the English language. ??? Maybe if said fast.

*Clans many many years ago that wanted to get rid of their unwanted people without killing them, burnt their houses down - hence the expression " to get fired." !!

Some more bizarre facts?
A baby elephant weighs less than a blue whale's tongue

sharks can sense the heartbeat of other fish

donald duck was banned in finland because he doesn't wear pants

the ant is proportionally the strongest animal

cockroaches chew on your eyebrows and lashes
Reply:take a look at

http://www.nowyouknoweverythin... Report Abuse

Reply:That one about Donald Duck being banned in Finland cause he doesn't wear pants is only an Urban Myth. :) It's still funny, tho. Report Abuse

Reply:£ is not names octothorpe, # is an octothorpe. Report Abuse

Reply:Haha, I starred you. =) Report Abuse

Reply:I think some of these facts are BS. but some sound legit. I never noticed that about the "Esposas" in Spanish. Report Abuse

Reply:Interesting thing to know mate.
Reply:Wow, I have to save this for later! I love this kind of stuff! Well done!
Reply:OMG - brilliant - where on earth did you get these bizzare facts from that I am now boring my husband silly with!
Reply:Actually, quite amusing. Thanks :)))
Reply:prtty cool stuff.
Reply:WOW!!!
Reply:awesome stuff! THANKS! i am going to WOW my husband with wacky info!
Reply:Good to know
Reply:man i wish the doctor could give me some weed for my cramps if the queen can do it then so can i
Reply:how do you ask such a long question?
Reply:So much info! so little time...
Reply:my brain hurts...look away look away before it sucks you in!!!!!
Reply:Sorry what was your question?.........smart ****!
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Sorry.

Whats your name again?
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Why can't cons deal with reality?

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EXAMPLE 1:

In response to me using data from www.whitehouse.gov proving Keynesian Democrats are superior to tax cuts for the rich supply side Republicans:

"like we believe anything the gov't puts out..... "

- badjansenn = CON

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

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EXAMPLE 2:

In response to citing the U.S. Geological Survey proving man produces over 150 times more CO2 then all volcanic activity combined.

""There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." Harry S. Truman, 1948.

I don't believe anything you have written above."

- regerruged = CON

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

Why can't cons deal with reality?
Edit: Take another look they are not government sites, in fact one is from Missouri State University.

Who's reality: Yours... here is mine,,,

Global Warming;

Global Warming: Forecasts by Scientists versus Scientific Forecasts

J. Scott Armstrong, Kesten Green, Energy and Environment (forthcoming)

Authors audited the forecasting process used by the IPCC WGI Report and found that it violated 72 of 89 principles of forecasting. From a forecasting standpoint, authors conclude that claims the Earth will get warmer have no more credence than saying it will get colder.

Hysteria’s History: Environmental Alarmism in Context

Amy Kalieta, Gregory Forbes, Pacific Research Institute, 21 September 2007

The tragedy of environmental hysteria is twofold: it is often a detrimental perversion of the truth— and it has all happened before.

The Adverse Impacts of Cap and Trade Regulations

Aurthur Laffer %26amp; Wayne Winegarden, September 2007

Famed economist Arthur Laffer says in a new study that implementing a cap-and-trade system for managing greenhouse gas emissions could cost the average family $10,800 in lost income. Laffer likens the proposed global warming policy to a 1970s-era energy crunch.

500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man Made Global Warming Scares

Dennis T Avery, Hudson Institute, 14 September 2007

The following list includes more than 500 qualified researchers, their home institutions, and the peer-reviewed studies they have published in professional journals providing historic and/or physical proxy evidence that:

Biofuels: Is the Cure Worse than the Disease?

Richard Doornbosch and Ronald Steenblik, OECD, 11 September 2007

OECD’s determines that biofuels benefits not commensurate with their environmental and humanitarian costs.

Europe’s Dirty Little Secret: Why the EU Emissions Trading Scheme isn’t Working

Open Europe, August 2007

The Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) is supposed to be the EU’s main policy tool for reducing emissions. But so far, it has been an embarrassing failure.

A Reality Check on Efforts to Reduce GHG Emissions in California, Oregon, the Northeast and Europe

American Council for Capital Formation, August 2007

On Keynesian Democrats:

Lawmakers and reporters often repeat the Keynesian myth that government spending "pumps new money into the economy." They assert that if the economy's total demand is lacking, government can act as a consumer and make purchases itself. Since the gross domestic product (GDP) is the sum of all purchases on final goods and services, these government purchases will add to GDP.

On public opinion polls:

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Public Opinion Polls

Russell D. Renka

Professor of Political Science

Southeast Missouri State University
Reply:I firmly believe that you have dilgently looked up sources that support your beliefs. And I believe that they are valid, qualified scientific sources that have plenty of documentation and research to back up their findings. I further believe that both you and they believe they are unbiased. I would ask however if you looked for any evidence to disprove your beliefs? Even among the greatest of scientific minds and economic theorists there is disagreement. Any truely unbiased researcher will not only look for supporting documentation but contradictory documentation. Those people who dismissed your sources out of hand were quite rude.

On economic theories, the greatest minds simply disagree. There is no way around it. Economics has never been a science that could be proven because peoples beliefs get in the way of its application.

20 years ago it was common wisdom that one volcanic erution emitted more pollution than mankind could generate in 50 years. Some people find it hard to accept new data. And when they learned this handy pearl of wisdom, it was mostly sulfuric acid they were concerned about rather than CO2.

Scientific minds differ on many issues. And many people will see what they want to see in numbers and statistics. So often even when something seems like absolute proof to one person it looks like nothing, or something else to another. It is often not that they can't deal with reality, but that they simply don't see reality the same way you do.
Reply:Why cant Lubs
Reply:hmmm . . . let's see . . . "rich supply side Republicans" . . . well, yep . . . I'll go with them on this one

Why does some con always bring up Gore on global warming?

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Here I am, always citing well established scientific organizations like the:

- U.S. Geological Survey

- American Chemical Society,

- Geological Society of America,

- American Meteorology Society,

- U.S. National Academy of Science,

- American Geophysical Union,

- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,

- American Association for the Advancement of Science,

- NOAA's National Climatic Data Center,

- National Center for Atmospheric Research,

- and the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

and here they are bringing up Gore once again. I never cited him. It seems to me that they have been conditioned to ignore the mainstream scientific concensus on man made global warming and just attribute everything to Al Gore.

Why does some con always bring up Gore on global warming?
Because whether you like it or not, Al Gore hijacked the issue from you. You will have to loudly, publicly and persistently take it back from him if you do not want him to represent you.

I do not blame you for not wanting him to represent you.

I certainly do not want him to represent my views. As far as I am concerned Al Gore has no credibility on any issue.

I recommend: contact as many members of the media as you can, call in to talk shows, both liberal and conservative.

State clearly in no uncertain terms that you do not consider

Al Gore to be competent on this issue.

Also state that Al Gore started a company to sell phony carbon credits to people who use large amount of fossil fuels and that Al Gore will make hundreds of millions of dollars from that business. Al Gore has a conflict of interest on this issue. Al Gore is just trying to make some money off this issue. He is not trying to solve the problem.

Also that Al Gore uses tens of times more energy in his mansions than the average family of 4 and that he flys all over the place on private jets that use over 1,000 times the amount of fossil fuel per mile as the most wasteful SUV.

Also state very clearly that Al Gore has no credibility on any issue as far as you are concerned.

Then start talking about the competent scientists and explain why they are the ones who should be taken seriously and not Al Gore..

Unfortunately Al Gore hijacked this issue from you. Until you loudly and publicly take it back from him Al Gore is the Albatross that you will have hanging around your neck on this issue.

Sorry that I do not have better news for you.
Reply:Because one of the most liberal magazines on the market just had the audacity to proclaim him an "EcoSavant' and he stood up and took the honors in spite of the fact that not one of the organizations you just listed have seen fit to give him any sort of award or, even a decent review of his work in the area.

If the libs would give it up and admit his docudrama was little more than that, perhaps cons would not feel so obligated to point the fact out as often.
Reply:Gore is the one who fanatically wigged out on it.
Reply:What makes you think I' m a con

You still didn't answer how the first ice age ended before there was any industrialization.

And you are still swallowing Gore's B.S

If you haven't figured it out yet, the earth has been getting

warmer for several years, then it will get cooler, and then

it will get warmer. This is a natural cycle, you are using

the same types of scientists that believe in the big bang

theory, yet they aren't smart enough to look at the history

of the climate for more than 7 or 8 years.

According to the Mayan calendar, you won't have anything

to worry about after 2012, not that this is biblical but

for the non-believers they can have a date to go by.

P.S. You should have gotten my permission to use my

answer or at least given me credit, you are now guilty

of plagiarism
Reply:Because Al Gore is a hypocrite. He has not altered his own personal life as an example. Of course, he was raised to feel privliged while using others.

He is arrogant and bitter and I find it very difficult to swallow anything he says.

The cause of Global Warming certainly needs a better more qualified, better communicator, less egotistical person to convince people this is something we all need to combat not just the peons that are only good for taxes and votes.
Reply:Because you're taking the "con" seriously.
Reply:because Gore chose to make himself the poster child for "man made" global warming which is complete garbage. that being said... most of the "scientific evidence" is actually just theory. I mean really... what is their basis for comparison? We know that the earth has gone through climate changes... (i.e. Ice age..) was there accurate information recorded then for a comparison. How far does accurate measurements go? a hundred years... and that is enough to base the global cycle when the earth has been around for thousands of years. And what does account for global warming and cooling in ancient history? And yes... there are plenty of scientists who don't believe in man made global warming either and they have theories that are just as good and credible.
Reply:Because he's the front man. He is the face of the global warming crowd ( for lack at the moment of a better word). He made the movie, and he got the attention and the name association.
Reply:Why would anybody question or cite Al gore's Double standards? Because if you tell people how to live than you better be the poster boy not flying around in private jets or mining Zinc mines, After all he did invent the Internet according to Big Al. By the Way Mars is also Heating up, must be Global warming.
Reply:Because Gore is your spokesman.

BTW...you have not yet address my scientific questions about man-made v. sun variation, model robustness, and validation of past temperature data.

And...the "consensus" you sing is not science. Science is reproducible results.
Reply:You might want to take that one up with Al Gore, since he is the one who politicized the issue forever.

Sure, pal, because any American over the age of 40 has already lived through at least 3 environmental, end of the world scenerios. And some of us already have our own end of the world scenerio that predates Al Gore by 2000 years.
Reply:Cons are either too stupid to understand the concept of global warming or too greedy. The big corps. would lose some of their obscene profits if they had to control pollution.
Reply:Because Al Gore has everyone believing he discovered global warming, just like he invented the internet. lol.
Reply:He's the one leading your party on this issue.

His name is bound to be popped into the answer's. Just like every time a con Say's anything Rush or FOX are tossed in by people.
Reply:What! I thought Gore was the High Priest of Global Warming. You mean I've been lied to. And I just got done building a shrine to him. Good thing I didn't sacrifice anything yet.
Reply:Because while proclaiming to be the greatest champion and foremost authority on global warming (oh, not to mention inventing the Internet) he is also the HUGEST hypocrite.

Personally I don't think anyone can refute that the world has seen a warming trend, but is it possible for that to just be a natural course? I mean, I remember hearing something about how decades ago there was a global cooling trend and scientists everywhere swore up one side and down the other that we were in the beginnings of another ice age.

Cite all the alternative sources you want, but Gore's name will without a doubt always come up. Until he stops hopping into his personal jet to fly cross country to give a speech about how hopping into personal jets to fly everywhere is killing our planet you are going to get that argument from everyone.

Not to mention... haven't you heard? Through exhaustive and extensive research there has recently been a breakthrough on how to combat global warming! Everyone in the world uses only one square of toilet paper per trip to the restroom! Forgive me for not taking this problem as seriously as the libs who think up the solutions. Thanks to Sheryl Crow I will have a hard time ever taking the problem seriously.
Reply:Because that's the way he wants it, didn't you see his movie?
Reply:It seems Gore's incompetence outweighs all of the scientific organizations combined.

Earth Science?

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Beginning at this United States Geological Survey (USGS) Web site, research some of the most current worldwide earthquake events. When you have finished your investigation, prepare a short newspaper article that describes this recent earthquake activity. Be sure to note any evident patterns associated with earthquake locations.

Earth Science?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en%26amp;ned=%26amp;q...

http://www.usgs.gov/science/science.php?...

permanent teeth

Is paranoia a pre-requesuite for conservatives?

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It's amazing.

You won't believe the "liberal media", the "activist judges", the polling companies, universities, and mainstream historians and economics.

I cite NASA, the American Meteorological Society, US Geological Survey, and other well established scientific organizations and cons say they hate America and want capitalism to fail. OR they're just following the global warming money.

I cite the Census, Bureau of Economic Affairs, Treasury Department, Department of Labor, etc, etc, and now there is atleast one con who won't trust anything from the government.

Are there any sources a con will trust besides Fox News and the rest of the opinion media???

Is paranoia a pre-requesuite for conservatives?
Yes, it's a pre-requesuite. The reason is that a conservative doesn't like change. Any change in society is another instance of liberals out to "get" them. So you can plainly see, you must be paranoid of change (liberalism) to be a conservative.
Reply:The people you are talking about aren't conservatives they are conservative-WANNABES.

There's a difference.
Reply:I say YOU'RE paranoid. Wow, what was all that you cited?

Relax
Reply:They are the terrified party. It's why they gotta have wars.
Reply:I think paranoia goes hand in hand with extremism on any end of the political spectrum. Staying in the center is the best way to keep your sanity.
Reply:No..but a frontal lobotomy should be mandatory for all liberals.
Reply:It is the sine qua non of all extremism. Moderate liberals and conservatives suffer from a less severe case than the wing nuts.
Reply:No but living in reality is a requirement....not understanding reality is a lib requirement....and I know you do not realize...numbers can be twisted to make any point you want.....I can even use polls to show libs like BUSH....

current CNN approval polls

GW 32%

Pelosi Congress 28%

That means that GW is more popular than Nancy and congress....
Reply:I hear Hillary is campaigning again in Hollywood. cha-ching!

No special interest there! hee hee.

There's middle America for ya! How much money has she collected from average Americans like Steven Speilburg, Babs Streisand, Brittany Spears, etc...

Hollywood is Not a family value!
Reply:Nope, you nailed it.
Reply:And yet the left will not accept facts, but they love a consensus. Scientist all over the world are in "consensus" that man causes global warming. The question put to them is do you believe man is causing global warming? That is it - the is the end of the question. Yet the UN had to be practically sued when 11 scientist from Europe demanded to be removed from the UN study because the question did not go far enough. The real question is - how much is man responsible for global warming and the answer is - factually - a whopping 3%. Which his down from over 5% in the 1920's and down from 6% in the 1800's. So why can't the "left" stop playing word games to make up laws, regulate, tax and redistribute?
Reply:I bet your a Rosie fan, is Dan Rather make up my own stuff your media hero?

If you don't have a life, have a conspiracy theory.

We will win despite you!!!
Reply:I don't think that sort of thing is exclusive to conservatives. Most everybody will, in one way or another, resort to conspiracy theories when they realize that all the facts are against them.
Reply:Republicans aren't Conservatives they are Facist

Would this account for a lot of the effed-up behavior in our nation's capitol?

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WASHINGTON - Last month's testing at three tributaries emptying into the Potomac revealed that more than 80 percent of all male smallmouth bass found were growing eggs, according to Vicki S. Blazer, a fish pathologist with the U.S. Geological Survey.

At a testing site in Washington, seven of 13 male largemouth bass showed some kind of unusual feminine characteristic, Blazer told The Washington Post. Six of the seven tested positive for a protein used to produce eggs and three actually carried eggs.

Scientists say abnormal "intersex" fish, with both male and female characteristics, have been discovered in the Potomac River and its tributaries across the Capitol Region, raising questions about how contaminants are affecting millions of people who drink tap water there.

Source: AP NEWSWIRE SERVICE

Would this account for a lot of the effed-up behavior in our nation's capitol?
No. I would say the effed-up behavior in the nation's capital is having a negative effect on the surrounding environment. All that bullchit is getting into the rivers.
Reply:Liberals are the problem
Reply:To much flipping around and not enough down under work.
Reply:Sure does - but only in the sick world you inhabit.

You see, out here in the real world such things are irrelevant.

But then you know ALL about irrelevancy, don't you?

Ever since the discovery of gender-bending fish?

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Ever since the discovery of gender-bending fish in the Potomac River, scientists have wondered what could be changing the sex of large numbers of fish in the waterway outside Washington, D.C.

They may not have to wonder much longer.

A recent U.S. government study has found large quantities of chemicals in the river and its tributaries—pollutants that are known to cause sex change in animals.

These chemicals, from both residential and industrial sources, may be linked to the unnatural fish, says the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) report, which was released late last month.

Males With Eggs

The discovery of the abnormal fish "was largely accidental," said Douglas Chambers, a USGS scientist who led the study.

"In 2002 we were looking at stream-water chemistry to understand the large fish die-offs at these sites. It was then that we found smallmouth bass with intersex, a condition where male fish develop premature egg cells."

Ever since the discovery of gender-bending fish?
ha ha ha
Reply:Dude WTF?
Reply:whatso funny about that? U should put this on science and math section ...or...i don't get this joke!!!

Something supsiciously interesting about U.S. oil reserves . . .?

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Just came across something interesting . . . I'm paraphrasing for brevity . . . "During the depths of the Great Depression the U.S. Geological Survey placed strategic oil reserves at 15 years . . . In 1940 the same survey placed strategic oil reserves at 14 years . . . Any thoughts as to the timing and severe under representation or oil reserves . . . ? Thanks.

Something supsiciously interesting about U.S. oil reserves . . .?
It is a huge cover up that the Government decided would be in are best interest.Use up the oil supply from other nations before we use are's.We have more oil that Saudi Arabia ever thought of having.We didn't want to use up are natural resources before we took out everyone else's.
Reply:The simplest answer is technology and access has changed.

As we develop new technologies, we are more able to locate oil, more accurately measure the volumes, get to the reserves, and refine the various grades. Gone are the days of Wildcat drilling and hoping you strike oil and have the ability to pump and refine only 10 to 25 percent. Now we can drill oil off-shore in 20 miles under water and at a slant. We can extract oil from Tar Sands and refine it as sweet crude.

In addition to technology, price is also an issue. The higher the price of oil, the more cost effective it is to go for the more difficult reserves. Tar Sands are viable not only because of $80 a barrel oil. Deep Water oil and ANWAR are viable because of price and the instability of the Middle East.

There is also the possibility that the government underestimates its reserves so that we don't get complacent. The commercials which say we are down to half the oil on Earth left and will run out in 10 years is not a reality. It is impossible to tell how much oil there is on Earth and how technology will change to get to that oil. But it is safer to say we are almost out of oil and develop new energy sources, finding more later, then it is to say we have plenty, then run out because we can't get to it because of politics, war or lack of attempt to develop the technology.
Reply:According to what I was told in class, we have oil reserves for 100 years---and it would not surprise me if we are stockpiling more at this time....
Reply:Only naive people now believe anything these corporate monsters say. We are awash in oil, while they destroy their own refineries so they can have excuses for shortages.
Reply:The easy to get oil is running out. There are several other places to get oil but they become harder and harder which will still increase the prices. Look up oil shale in Canada.
Reply:nowadays they call it "peak oil" -another hoax. The fact is the world is swimming both in available know-how for alternative and renewable energy sources PLUS capped oil reserves and a massive grab fro the remainder - the latest being Darfur in Sudan which is believed have considerable reserves (hence the mysterious ethnic cleansing which appeared of out of the blue).

They do their best to sit on both the reserves and suppress the alternatives.

perhaps the question realty is: why do we allow it?

buck teeth

Peru Earthquake?

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Powerful aftershocks shook Peru on Thursday as rescuers pulled wounded and dead from collapsed homes and churches a day after a massive earthquake killed hundreds of people.

Hospitals were overwhelmed with injured in the cities of Chincha and Pisco on the Pacific coast, and dead bodies were gathered on street corners in Pisco.

Peru's civil defence agency said at least 337 people perished and 1,300 were injured in the 7.9-magnitude quake and the death toll was expected to rise.

The U.S. Geological Survey reported aftershocks of magnitude 6.0 and 6.3 on Thursday morning near the central Peru coast.

Wounded people lay on the floor in the San Jose hospital in Chincha, south of the capital Lima. Television images showed walls in the hospital destroyed by the quake.

What do you have to say about that?

Peru Earthquake?
Hello.

I have a brother and my step-dad in Peru. I don't even get the chance to communicate vvith them.

Also, it has been raised to an 8.0 by the U.S. Geological Survey. At least 14 aftershocks of magnitude 5 or greater followed. And the death toll rose to 450 currently, but they say there are more.

I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THIS AS BEING BIG NEVVS!

VVhat's that about?

"The dead are scattered by the dozens on the streets," Pisco Mayor Juan Mendoza told Lima radio station CPN, sobbing. "We don't have lights, water, communications. Most houses have fallen. Churches, stores, hotels — everything is destroyed."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070817/ap_o...

"One American died in the quake, according to the State Department."

I guess they vvere trying to inform the relatives of the person. They have not mentioned people form other countries.

The MEDIA is nothing but entertainment. The vveb and local is vvhere all the REAL nevvs is at. The advanced technology and you vvould expect the biggest influences, the Media, to cover vvhat is vital and important. On the contrary, Real nevvs is rarely discussed, and if it is it is brief.

Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased by tales, so is the other.

-Francis Bacon
Reply:I agree with LISA %26amp; MAVEN... Couldn't believe that oh yeah "breaking news" Jenna Bush got engaged. The same thing happened when Paris Hilton went back to jail ALL the coverage was about her (I like her by the way, that's my dirty little secret) anyway, media was talking all about Paris Hilton and said, "While we wait for Paris Hilton to come out of her house, let's check with Joe Smith on the latest on Iraq, 2 soldiers killed today", and this was on MSNBC it wasn't a local channel or anything, this was nation wide!
Reply:America is a sick nation. Over 450 people have been killed, but the home page of yahoo boasts about the president's daughter's engagement. And then you read the article about Peru's quake and someone has the balls to claim that at least ONE American was killed. One. Out of 450. This country has NO compassion. And at the end of the article is there a link for where to donate money to help the victims? No. How about hotlines to find out if your family or friends in Peru are okay? No. Nothing. What makes me so angry is that things like Sept 11th and Hurricane Katrina get so much attention and aid, but things like the massive tsunami in Indonesia killing a quarter million people get a fraction of the attention. But hey, let's celebrate -- Jenna Bush is engaged! Hell ya!!
Reply:Sucks to live in an earth quake prone area.

Help with history pleaseeee?

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1. who works with the Environmental Protection Agency to enforce marine biology regulations along the coast and in the Great Lakes channels.

Coast Guard

Department of the Interior (DOI)

Center for Disease Control (CDC)

Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

2. A main division of the Department of Health, the _________, is responsible for efforts to prevent diseases, disabilities, and environmental health threats.

Coast Guard

Department of the Interior (DOI)

Center for Disease Control (CDC)

Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

3. The _________ is the branch of the Department of Health that is responsible for overseeing food inspection processes, prohibits the shipping of mislabeled products, and checks quality controls and labels for cosmetics and pharmaceuticals.

Coast Guard

Department of the Interior (DOI)

Center for Disease Control (CDC)

Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

4. This division is in charge of recycling water for reuse on agricultural areas and landscape areas in National Parks.

(1 point)

US Geological Survey

US Fish and Wildlife Service

Bureau of Reclamation

Mineral Management Service

5. This division is in charge of mapping land and water, and global positioning technologies for the United States. (1 point)

US Geological Survey

US Fish and Wildlife Service

Bureau of Reclamation

Mineral Management Service

6. This division is in charge of reestablishing the endangered species that are facing possible extinction. (1 point)

US Geological Survey

US Fish and Wildlife Service

Bureau of Reclamation

Mineral Management Service

Help with history pleaseeee?
1. Coast Guard

2. CDC

3. FDA

4. Bureau of Reclamation

5. US Geological Survey

6. US Fish %26amp; Wildlife Service
Reply:is this a real question?

Petroleum Geology Question?

2009-11-15T18:41:00.001-08:00

Why would they update formation tops on a well that was dry. and plugged and abandoned over 20 years ago? Is this something the Geological Survey would do routinely?

Petroleum Geology Question?
This is something I do routinely almost every day as a petroleum geologist. We are constantly re-examining old data and combining it with new information in our search for new undiscovered and possibly bypassed oil reservoirs. A significant part of the future oil reserves in the US is going to come from this type of detective work. Some major discoveries have resulted from geologists going back and re-examining old well logs.

You have to keep in mind that the information coming from a well represents only one point on a map. Combining the information from that point with well data from a recently drilled well or new 3D siesmic data might change the entire interpretation of a specific formation. I saw a great example recently where a geologist realized that an unconformity extended across a region where no one else had noticed it before, and was able to find stratigraphic traps in areas that were near existing dry holes, but the wells had missed the reservoir.
Reply:Yes, this answer rocks :) Vote for it today!

Ever notice how conservatives won't believe anything unless it comes from Fox News?

2009-11-15T18:41:00.000-08:00

and the rest of the opinion media? Kind of hard to convince them to see the truth when they accuse anything that doesn't come from the mouth of a right-wing pundit of having a liberal bias.

They won't believe the "activist judges", the mainstream media, teachers, university profesors, or mainstream historians and economists.

And now they won't believe scientific organizations like NASA, the U.S. Geological Survey, or the American Meteorological Society. They won't believe polling companies and they won't believe any stats from the government including the Census, Bureau of Economic Affairs, Department of Treasury, etc.

IS IT JUST ME OR DOES IT ME CONS ARE TOO PARANOID? IF A STAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEIR WORLD VIEW THEY THINK WELL ITS BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE COME FROM A LIBERAL.

Ever notice how conservatives won't believe anything unless it comes from Fox News?
you don't give them enough credit. they are actually quit balance in their views. They balance what they hear on FOX with what they hear Rush say.
Reply:No, I had not noticed that.

Maybe this is the balance for libs believing everything, regardless of whether or not there are facts.
Reply:Useful idiot's everywhere...
Reply:The same could be said of Liberals watching the Clinton News Network (CNN). It's also kind of hard to convince them to see the truth when they accuse our own government for everything from masterminding the 9-11 attacks to faking a moon landing. Even if the evidence is hitting them in the forehead, they still maintain there MUST be some kind of conspiracy beneath the surface.

They won't believe the engineers, contractors, professors, media, firefighters, or scientists that were actively involved in 9-11. Sound familiar?

They won't believe scientists that also rebut Al Gore's claim about global warming being man-made. They just discovered Mars is heating up too. But, I'm guessing libs have a theory for that also (they probably blame it on space junk, or something equally ridiculous). It's been proven that cows emit more methane than the average person. Are you going to save the world by giving Bean-o to one cow at a time? Be my guest.

Libs also do not want to admit that, when it comes to Iraq, they are the ones getting in their own way. If they wouldn't be so concerned with the "rules of engagement", only allowing a soldier to shoot after he's been shot at multiple times or injured, then this would have been long over by now. They have tried to paint a "lets all just get along", Barney-esque, type of war, when war isn't supposed to be pretty. Instead they are so concerned with what the liberal media will say that we'll now be there 4 times as long as planned.

So, it seems to me with all the crazy conspiracy theories libs seem to have a lot of time sitting around thinking about, that they are the paranoid ones. Thanks for playing though.
Reply:Don't worry.

Even Fox is starting to tone down the 'blind support'

One cannot 'defend the indefensible' forever.
Reply:That's not true. I get most of my news from Jihad Watch.
Reply:I always look behind the curtain of retarded posters like you and see under 100 points. I wonder why. I guess you and the other retards are too busy with your freshman highschool book reports. You know nothing.
Reply:FOX News is not NEWS. Fox classifies it as Entertainment Programming. Sort of the same as Wrestling.

It is Official Facist Party Propaganda. The Government doesn't pay for it but the Military requires Televisions in public Areas be tuned to it.

The Best Part is thier owner financing Hillary Clintons campaign so he can focus the hate of those dumb enough to believe them as a boogeyman/lady
Reply:I hardly ever watch fox news. You liberals seem to be glued there 24/7/365
Reply:Not paranoid, just not gullible.
Reply:Hey Fox news, where do you get your facts? You are on notice , Fox ....

pulling teeth

Are the neocon "thinktanks" planning for a war with Russia and Denmark over the Arctic now that it has Oil?

2009-11-15T18:40:00.003-08:00

As global warming sets in, the polar ice cap is receding fast. Scientists reckon that by the end of the century the entire Arctic Ocean could be open water for the first time since prehistory, uncovering potentially vast reservoirs of oil and natural gas—perhaps a quarter of the world's undiscovered reserves, according to a study from the U.S. Geological Survey.

they seem to follow the Oil with tanks and bomber jets where ever it may be.

you know---thinktanks like "the Project for the New American Century"

Are the neocon "thinktanks" planning for a war with Russia and Denmark over the Arctic now that it has Oil?
No, they cannot even win a little skirmish with tiny little Iraq, how in hell would they fare against russia? lol ... Also NeoCon Thinktank is an Oxymoron
Reply:I doubt it. Russia still has too many nukes. And although even our Salvation Army could beat Denmark on a good day, it is, after all, a part of NATO......
Reply:Not without Karl Rove,,that's for sure...cheerio and cho fun fuu.freepress
Reply:not if al gore invents global cooling first and reproduces the ice that is fading away... lmao your a puppet...
Reply:if they did, they'd probably have us fight Canada first- they have more rights to the Arctic than we do.
Reply:If it were left up to the left wing liberal loonies in the US, the oil fields would never get developed. If Russia takes charge and develops the fields, they will get the oil to market within a few years.

In the US, oil companies would be fighting tree huggers, enviro wienies, anti-Americans for years.
Reply:Why bother? We have Iraq and the Saudis.
Reply:If we could run cars on the hot air you liberals spout, there would be no need for oil.

But for now, dear, cars, trucks, trains, and civilization run on oil. Where do you propose to get it in light of the fact that the libs have forbidden pumping it out of our land in Alaska?

Do you drive a car? Offer REAL solutions, or close your gob.
Reply:If the ice caps melt, neither we nor any other country will have any ports in which to offload the oil cargo. They will all be flooded. Perhaps we could quickly build ports in the Poconos and the Sierras
Reply:we have plenty of oil in alaska but keep up the anti-American bull, traitor.
Reply:Except Alaska. Seems Caribou must be more vicious than we have been told as Alaska is already ours.

Now let me figure this twisted logic if I can. We won't drill in Alaska because of Caribou but we will go half way around the world and spend trillions of dollars for the same oil we could have gotten by inconveniencing a few caribou in our own country? And this makes sense to you?
Reply:Just trying to liberate The North Pole for Santa.
Reply:Someone has to do the thinking sense the Neo-Libs are totally incapable of it.

On CTV news this evening there was an article that scientist are expecting that the west coast of?

2009-11-15T18:40:00.002-08:00

washington/british columbia could experience a significant earthquake in the next two weeks . This is apparently a trend that they have been noticing for some time...after this 2 week period of increased possibility...we should be 'safe' again until April 2008. Does anyone know anything more about this......???

CTV.ca News Staff

Experts warn that British Columbia's southern coast has entered a two-week window of increased probability in which a major earthquake could occur.

While the chances of that happening are still very slim, such an event could trigger a tsunami equal to the size and the strength of what hit Sumatra in 2004.

Seismologists with B.C.'s Geological Survey of Canada made the announcement after measuring a series of minor tremors along the Cascadia Subduction Zone -- a long, sloping fault that stretches from northern California to Vancouver Island.

The zone, which separates the Juan de Fuca Plate and the North American Plate, has a very large fault area which can produce large earthquakes with a magnitude of 9.0 or greater if a rupture were to occur.

"Where the Juan de Fuca plate is subducting beneath the North American plate, and where those plates are touching, it's locked," earthquake seismologist Alison Bird told CTV.ca.

"To the east of that, every 14 months we see low frequency tremor activity ... sliding along that zone, which is almost directly beneath us," Bird told CTV.ca in a phone interview from the Geological Survey of Canada headquarters in Sidney, B.C., near Victoria.

"When that happens, we believe what it's doing is loading additional stress onto the locked zone. So if that locked zone happens to be close to critical, it could theoretically trigger a mega earthquake."

Bird and her colleagues noticed a phenomenon, called Episodic Tremor and Slip (ETS), occurs in the area about every 14 months -- each time adding stress to the fault line and increasing the likelihood of a major earthquake.

The seismologists started detecting strong ETS movement last Friday.

If a major quake should occur, said seismologist Gary Rogers: "You're looking at a big tsunami happening at the same time. The west coast of Vancouver Island, the Washington and Oregon coasts, are all vulnerable to a force powerful enough to certainly bring down buildings.

Rogers told CTV.ca that the area of the Cascadia Subduction Zone is comparable in size to the rupture zone of the Dec. 26, 2004 earthquake in the Pacific Ocean that triggered a devastating tsunami in the Sumatra-Andaman Islands.

Another comparable scenario, said Roberts, is the 1964 earthquake that struck Alaska.

"Most of the bigger, taller buildings and structures like bridges suffered some damage, whereas most of the small structures such as houses suffered hardly any damage. So there's an analogy which is probably what is going to happen in Vancouver, Seattle and Victoria."

While larger structures that were built a number of years ago are most vulnerable, continued Roberts, recently-built structures are better off, "because what we do is put this type of knowledge into building codes. Older, bigger structures are more vulnerable because they don't have the present day knowledge built into their design."

The last known great earthquake in the Pacific Northwest -- the Cascadia Earthquake -- struck in January, 1700. While such phenomena are infrequent -- with a cycle of every few hundred years -- the region is due for a big one.

The Geological Survey of Canada added for an average week, the chances of a mega thrust earthquake occurring is 0.0005 per cent (or 1/200,000); during a week of Episodic Tremor and Slip this increases to 0.026 per cent (or 1/4,000) -- a 50-fold increase.

"We are at a time when (a megathrust quake) could occur, but it could also be 100 years from now," Bird told CTV.ca, adding that it's never too soon to get organized and take precautions.

"What I encourage people to do is whenever we're about to have an ETS, it's a good time to use that as a trigger to go over your emergency plan with your family to make sure that your earthquake kit is full stocked," she said.

"Sometimes things get taken from earthquake kits to use for other things. So replenish the food and water and other equipment. It's just a good practice, a good reminder, like when the clocks change you check the battery in your smoke detector. For the west coast, you check your earthquake kit every 14 months."

Should B.C. escape the big one this time, the next window of higher earthquake risk will occur around April 2008.

Rogers said seismologists haven't figured out why the ETS phenomenon happens every 14 months in the Pacific Northwest.

"And interestingly enough it's 14 months fairly regularly here for the last decade as we looked back at our old records," he said. "But in Japan, it seems to be about one year; in New Zealand it appears to be about every few years; and Alaska every 18 months. We don't know if it's because of different subduction zones, or it's about where we are in the earthquake cycle."

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On CTV news this evening there was an article that scientist are expecting that the west coast of?
Wow u answered your own question.

Is paranoia a pre-requisite for being a conservative?

2009-11-15T18:40:00.001-08:00

Cons won't believe the "liberal media", the "activist judges", teachers, university professors, academia, or mainstream historians and economists.

And now they won't believe scientific organizations like NASA, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the American Meteorological Society. One con even told me he won't believe anything coming from the government including the Census, the Bureau of Economic Analyses, the Treasury Department, or even the White House.

SEEMS TO ME CONS THINK US LIBS ARE EVERYWHERE!

Is paranoia a pre-requisite for being a conservative?
Pretty much so. Conservatism is a magnet for loonies.
Reply:They are everywhere...libs are far reaching trying to push their truth instead of the real truth. They start by trying to brainwashing our kids with such crap as global warming or evolution, then when that doesnt work they move to the courts to try and mandate it...if that doesnt work they go to the media and idealize it...and finally if that dont work...they push their mularky ideas into government and try to legislate it.
Reply:Considering 15% of the country is liberal and socialist, they have to be somewhere. They flock to teaching because they cannot make it in the business world. I experience this repeatedly first hand.

They flock to work for the government because there is little accountability, especially compared to the private sector.

Liberals dominate academia, government schools, media, tv, radio (except talk radio), and movies.
Reply:And i should believe you why ?
Reply:If all conservatives were paranoid then one of them would have snapped and killed you by now, so no is your answer.
Reply:Paranoia is the direct result of the Religious Right indoctrination they suffer from childhood.. If you are taught from birth to believe and have faith in a book put together by a few great and good and never question anything it becomes second nature.

These people are perfect fodder. Why do you think they gladly accept that most people who join the Military are conservatives. Who else would want to put their lives on the line for someone who would NEVER put their live on the line with all that Jingoistic love of country.

Conservative=Fodder.
Reply:Go ahead and keep flattering yourself. Some of us view modern Liberalism in a very different light, Moonchild. It isn't so rosey when you're put out of business because of government regulations.

And the biggest problem with the Liberal mentality today, is that they are engaged in blaming everyone else for problems they created. Outsourcing? Blame Bush. Never consider how unions might have caused it. Or EPA regs. Or high taxes.

Modern Liberals have put themselves at odds with every US mainstay. And when it all falls down, they blame someone else.
Reply:Cons think Libs are to blame for their failures since 2000.

The height of self-delusion.

Luckily, the current Administration is forcing them to start facing 'reality'.

Example of paranoia:

Guy below me. (Mark k) Have a look at his Q%26amp;As

Extreme paranoia. If it weren't for 'Librals', he wouldn't have a life.
Reply:Is this a joke???Look at profile of the guy above me! It says it alll!

If you're a conservative do you think cuting and pasting editorials from a political website?

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from say Rush Limbaugh material is the best way to try and persuade people to your side?

I woudn't think so. Same goes for liberals. That's why I try to keep my sources from third party sites like the Census, Bureau of Economic Analyses, Treasury Department, Department of Labor, Whitehouse.gov, American Meteorological Society, National Academy of Science, NASA's Goddard Space Institute, NOAA, US Geological Survey, American Chemical Society, Library of Congress, official memorial websites for famous historical figures, Geological Society of America, the American Geophysical Union, AAAS, etc, etc.

If you're a conservative do you think cuting and pasting editorials from a political website?
I collect all the interested articles from Los Angeles Times for my blog.
Reply:bush contols your sources so there is a bias.
Reply:That is because you know the difference between the exaggerated, biased Limbaugh website and reputable, nonpartisan websites. If the conservatives would cut and paste information from the sites you listed, I would take them a lot more seriously.
Reply:I hate cut and pasties, especially the ones that are 2 miles long.

chaep web hosts

Why do cons make global warming a political issue?

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Whether man made global warming is real or not is a not a political issue, it is a scientific issue. If you want the truth as best as current science can give you are supposed to trust the scientific consensus on the subject not a minority of doubters.

There is a scientific consensus on man made global warming. This consensus is not an opinion, but a conclusion based on OBSERVATIONS, EXPERIMENTATION, MODELING, and (((PEER REVIEW))).

I looked for all the well established scientific organizations engaged in geologic, climatic, and meteorologic research and their official statements on man made global warming. This is what I have so far.

(Stay tuned for official statments from NASA's Goddard Space Institute, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the National Center for Atmospheric Research.)

Why do cons make global warming a political issue?
The first part of your question is wrong...

Only the liberals are talking about global warming.

The rest of your question is useless fodder. Global warming is crap.
Reply:Why do Dems REFUSE to let scientists talk????????????
Reply:Ummm... no, the question should be: "Why do liberals make global warming a political issue?"

Conservatives hardly ever talk about it, except to laugh.
Reply:Another liberal lie in the form of a Yahoo question DEBUNKED!!!

Cons making Global Warming a political issue!!! LOL!!

Ask Mr. Gore why he preaches Global Warming all while using more utilities to heat and cool his own home in one month than the average citizen uses in a YEAR!!!!

Hope he's driving a Prius to make up for it? But I doubt it.
Reply:I've got some sad news for you. In science "consensus" means nothing and proves nothing.

Good luck, I hope this helps.
Reply:Because libs are trying to convince the world that a political solution is needed.
Reply:Um it became a political issue when Al Gore made it a political issue and last I heard, he was a Democrat.
Reply:Yea remember We made a Movie About it and sent around Al Gore the republican mouth piece and he won an Oscar.... Oh wait that was you demon Crats
Reply:Are you telling us AlGore went to the "Dark Side" %26amp; is now a CON? Oh my!
Reply:I was taught that a scientic hypothesis is only that until proven. Give me proof, not consensus!

NASA has noted that the atmosphere of MARS has risen by an average of 0.6 degrees C over the last 20 years, Earth has risen by 0.65. Can't be human caused on Mars...maybe the 0.05 degree difference on Earth is caused by human activity. Earth's average temperature was 2 degrees warmer than now between 1400 and 1600AD during the "Medieval Warm period" - there were no fossil fuels burnt during that period.

These are "inconvenient truths" for global warming alarmists.

Can a con ever be convinced he is wrong?

2009-11-15T18:39:00.002-08:00

Cons won't believe the "liberal media", the "activist judges", and mainstream historians and economists. Now it seems they won't trust government sources (census, bureau of economic analyses, whitehouse.org, department of labor, etc) or scientific organizations like NASA, the American Meteorological Society, or the U.S. Geological Survey.

What source will cons accept besides Fox News?

I will not cite THREE examples.

Can a con ever be convinced he is wrong?
You can lead a conservative to logic, but you can't make him think.
Reply:don't confuse them with facts
Reply:OK, you've thrown down the gauntlet, so let me prove that Cons are a lot more sophisticated and shrewd than you give us credit for.

Let's start with economists. The economists advising Ronald Reagan (Galbraith, Samuelson) told him the USSR was economically rock solid, and was growing faster than the U.S. Ha!!! Reagan knew better. Score one for the Cons.

NASA: did you know that NASA is convinced global warming is due to simple increased solar radiation? Other planets such as Mars are warmer too. NASA scientific data has shown most of the changes of temperature are due to changes in the Sun. Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto all have global warming right now.

NASA has said that great temperature changes are normal. Just 10,000 years ago, the earth warmed up remarkably in less than 20 years. There were not many people around at that time. Back around 750AD, Greenland was so warm it was colonized, and had crops growing and livestock grazing in meadows.

NASA:

"Rapid changes between ice ages and warm periods (called interglacials) are recorded in the Greenland ice sheet. Occurring over ONE OR TWO DECADES, the warming of the Earth at the end of the last ice age "

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/study/p

THIS GLACIER DIDN'T EXIST 7,000 YEARS ago. And that was after the Ice Age.

"A few thousand years ago, there were no glaciers here at all"..."Back then we would have been standing in the middle of a forest"

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/internat

Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/02/06/g

How is it going for you, big guy? Still so convinced Cons are just ignoring facts? The truth is, we know far better than Libs which facts are real, and which are concocted statistics, manipulated to direct the gullible and naive American public. I'd rather believe Bill O'Reilly than Hillary Clinton. Most rational people would too.

So, I'll listen to NASA. I'll listen to any credible organization that isn't being bribed or coerced to follow the Liberal directives.

Ask yourself one question: the evidence I have presented is never revealed by the Liberal media, is it? Don't you realize they are just playing all for fools? Do you want to spend you life having scum like George Soros laughing his @ss off at you?
Reply:I think a con on Yahoo can be convinced they are wrong just as easily as a liberal/dem can be convinced they are wrong.

Why do conservatives keep denying the scientific consensus on global warming?

2009-11-15T18:39:00.001-08:00

I looked for all the well established scientific organizations engaged in geologic, meteorologic, and climatic research and their statements on man made global warming. This is what I got so far.

(Stay tuned in the future for official statments from NASA's Goddard Space Institute, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the U.S. Geological Survey, and the National Center for Atmospheric Research.)

Why do conservatives keep denying the scientific consensus on global warming?
simple

since the source of power of the conservatives are big businesses, and big businesses make their big money by polluting our world, thus they deny the scientific consensus on global warming such that no laws could be passed to save the planet and interfere them making money
Reply:Another 2 points, Crops (food if you can't put 2 and 2 together) and other vegetation will flourish and thereby neutralize any inbalance. There is a clue in the word "Green House" gases.

Weather forecasters can't even guarantee an accurate forecast beyond 3 days.... and you are trying to predict the future. Good luck...... Keep buying into the lies.
Reply:Ummm what consensus. The National Organization for Climatologists came out with a statement signed by over 9,345 climatologists that states there is NO consensus since the data is NOT solid. Right now global warming is still classified as theory amongst scientists not fact. Real science embraces debate, not discourages it. Only those with a hidden agenda try to squelch debate and opposing views. Show me one scientist that can absolutely claim global warming is real and that will be the first one. Mars is undergoing a warming too, with the same conditions but you ignore that, how scientific can you really be?

Piece of advise, stop reading blogs and go to another topic, this one is beyond your comprehension.

Thanks for the easy 2 points.
Reply:science wasn't always their best subject in school.

Does this USGS document make its case for a "systems-science" oriented comprehensive coastal plan?

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Agency references in "A Plan for a Comprehensive Coastal Program to the capabilities of the United States Geological Survey:

"The USGS has a fundamental role, as a Federal agency, to ensure the standardization of information required for broad national application %26amp; to provide that information consistently across jurisdictional boundaries."

"The USGS has an unmatched capacity to integrate research %26amp; information across the scientific disciplines to address interdependent issues, to provide the regional context required to develop %26amp; assess local solutions %26amp; national priorities, %26amp; to maintain longterm research %26amp; monitoring efforts needed to identify %26amp; respond to critical and emerging issues."

If you are interested in the subject of climate change, rising sea levels, and how the U.S. is preparing for it, I suggest you read the whole document, 42 pages long.

Living on the west coast, in an area assessed as being between a medium to high risk, I want to know as much as I can.

Does this USGS document make its case for a "systems-science" oriented comprehensive coastal plan?
I have the 100 meter sea level rise map posted at my desk. I live on the east coast, and it just so happens that my properties are right near the line. I asked the college dept. if there was a USGS table of towns and cities with an exact elevation and coordinates, they said they didn't think so.

Are you aware of such a table? Thanks.

It's kind of an academic question, it will take thousands of years for Antarctica to melt, but it would be an interesting conversation piece, and who knows, maybe my descendants will still own the land.

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How do Evolutionists explain…?

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How do Evolutionists explain the perfectly manufactured, balanced and concentric ringed spheroids found in 3-billion year rock strata when apes, did not appear until 50 million years ago according the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model?

These sophisticated stones that are billions of years old and rotate on their axes, captured the attention of Mr. John Hund of Petersburg fifteen years ago. Hund's previous journey to the Gestoptesfontein mine near Ottosdal in the Northern Province is where he found a stone just like the one he read about and saw in the Klerksdorp museum.

While playing with the stone on a very flat surface at a restaurant one day, Hund realized it was very well balanced. He took it to the California Space Institute at the University of California to have tests done to determine just how well balanced it was. "It turned out that the balance is so fine, it exceeded the limit of their measuring technology and these are the guys who make gyrocompasses for NASA. The riddle of the rotating stone spheres completely baffles even the NASA scientists.

”The stone is balanced to within one-hundred thousandths of an inch from absolute perfection,” explained Hund. Nobody knows what these stones are. One NASA scientist told Hund that they do not have the technology to create anything as finely balanced as this, yet they were created by someone approximately 2.8 billion years ago despite Modern Man did not appear until 100,000 years ago. Additionally, most shocking, he stated the only way that either nature or human technology could create something so finely balanced would be in zero gravity. Clearly, they are a product of a former global technoculture that once thrived upon the Earth, but was annihilated indicating that civilization is not linear as linear evolution teaches, but cyclic and recurrent meeting periodic cosmo-cataclysmic discontinuities as relayed by Plato, himself, and modern Free Thinkers like Cremo and Thompson, authors of “Forbidden Archaeology”.

Here is an extract of Mr. Hund's letter:

The existence of the sphere came to my attention ca 1977 while removing endangered rock engravings from the site where pyrophyllite or "wonderstone", as it is commonly known in the region, is mined on the farm Gestoptesfontein (meaning plugged fountain) near the little village of Ottosdal about 110 km from Klerksdorp in South Africa's Northwest Province.

I was intrigued by the form of the spheres, grooves around the middle and the fact that they are as hard as steel, while the material (pyrophyllite) in which they are found, is as soft as limestone with a count of only 3 on the Moh scale.

As you probably know, pyrophyllite (Al2 Si4 O10 (OH)2) is a secondary mineral and the deposits were formed by a process of sedimentation. On Gestoptesfontein volcanic activity was responsible for the forming of outcrops varying in height from about 10 to 100 meters. The smooth and relatively soft surface on the slopes was ideal for the prehistoric dwellers (San) to make their engravings of animal and abstract designs.

On Gestoptesfontein these outcrops were "swan" into huge pieces by means of twisted steel cables running zigzag on pulleys for several kilometers. These blocks were then sawn by the same method into more manageable pieces of about 500 x 500 mm. Occasionally the "sawing cable" got stuck on one of the metal spheres embedded in the pyrophyllite.

They vary in size from " 30 – 50 mm in diameter and have perfectly concentric grooves round the center as if they were molded. Inside the hard "shell" some have a spongy substance, while in others it resembles charcoal.

Inquiries were made from all over the world about this phenomenon. Countries include Canada, Switzerland, Denmark, Germany, England, USA, Norway, France and Botswana. Institutions such as the University of South Florida, Miles Price and Associates, the Society for Physic Advancement (S.A), Kokkolan Kaupunchi (Finland), Esotera (Germany) Geologisches Institut der Universiteit Pleicherwall (Germany), the Department of Philosophy UICC (Chicago), Danfoss (Denmark), Illustreret Videnskab (Coppenhagen), Louisiana Geological Survey, Gale Research Company (Michigan) and Search and Research Institute of Florida also made inquiries.

I wrote NASA HQ, to confirm or deny this in 2000, and never received a reply. Mr. Hund's letter was removed from the Klerksdorp Museum page, afterwards, when I checked back some time later, and the page re-designed.

Image: http://www.ufologie.net/htm/transvaalsph...

How do Evolutionists explain…?
You are asking a hard question that they can not answer.

Since it can not be answered, it will be dismissed as a fake.

But, don't ask the evolutionist about their history of fakes or false assumptions:

Java man, Nebraska Man, and the others.

How many missing links were found using pig teeth?

Great question.
Reply:Both question and answer display a complete lack of understanding of science in general and evolution in particular. I suggest both of you visit http://www.talkorigins.org/ Report Abuse

Reply:read the book why people believe weird things

feel free to write skeptic magazine tho.

http://skeptic.com

could be many explanations.
Reply:The fact that you do not know all the details of anything does not make it the works of a supernatural being. I'll bet you drive a car- but don't really know exactly how it works, so you must believe that god designed that too. If the bible had declared that the world was flat, creationists would be claiming that satellite photographs of a round earth were fakes. The incomplete understanding of evolution is certainly not evidence of creation, which has no proof at all.

The most efficient geometric shape is a perfect sphere. Anything in a flexible, flowable state, such as a liquid (or molten metal) naturally wants to assume that shape. The only reason more things aren't formed as round objects is that either they weren't in a position to allow free forming or gravity put them in contact with some other surface, distorting them.

Think about it. Lead shot (shotgun pellets) are perfect metal spheres, and they aren't machined or formed in molds- they are dropped as a molten spray inside a tall tower. In the free fall the droplets are unaffected by gravitational distortion- and so become round, balanced spheres. They also cool and harden while falling, and thus retain the shape when they land. It's not a miracle- it's physics, science and understanding.

Of course none of that is visible to a creationist. It's hard to see anything except the inside of your belly button from their position.
Reply:Too long, didn't read.
Reply:Maybe its source is of earth origin - maybe some human beings will be able to travel into the past with the use of some device and they left that object behind. Maybe its just part of their trash. More likely in could just be an oddity of nature.

Just remember just because a bunch of people get together somewhere for a summit - like this idiots in Tehran trying to deny that the Holocaust occurred - doesn't mean that adds anything to something.
Reply:Bubbles occur naturally in nature, and they're damn near perfectly round. Some astronomical bodies are an order of magnitude closer to being perfectly spherical than the rocks you describe.
Reply:A creationist that says the Evolutionist are wrong is a person that don't believe in the god that they proclaim exist. The Evolutionist that says the normal unfolding of circumstances means there is no GOD. IS as the bible says - A FOOL.

You don't have to believe, but if you think that you know all of the answers, YOU ARE A FOOL. Too bad most of the Creationists, close their eyes and minds to greater understanding. GOD wants us to understand, so we must all seek answers at all time.
Reply:That does not look very precisely balanced to me.
Reply:Evolutionists cannot explain every imaginary question from non-scientist public. No need...

Let's see, if creationists can explain and PROVE anything they say... Let's start with the god...
Reply:That is one heII of a long story but the fact any one can defend a hoax and confuse any expert with all that information.

I fail to see why you brought the apes in..

spit,, I used to work in a warehouse, trade school but with what I absorbed was simple.. the damm things formed in space in an asteroid like a snowflake and landed here in your mud bed, so much for magic.

I won't be back to read your rebuttal,, silly people waste their time.
Reply:Your facts aren't quite right - of course you probably got them from Forbidden Archeology - that's why you're inaccurate. You shouldn't just read one account and believe it hook, line and sinker - don't be a chump! If you want to be scientific you need more data. Here's some:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/sphe...
Reply:As Mr. Hund's hoax, maybe? That is assuming that any of the information that you gave above is actually reliable, which I doubt. There's generally not much to be gained by getting all of your information off of internet sites like "ufologie.net."

Edit: No, I actually looked for any type of credible research on these speres, and could find none. Any mention I've seen is in the context of popular "mysteries/conspiracy/aliens built the pyramids" books, TV shows, or web sites. It's all heresay and conjecture. Very dubious sorts of information. You should be less credulous about extraordinary claims. Just because Charleton Heston narrates a TV show about something doesn't make it reliable information.
Reply:Once again... newspaper articles are not scientific evidence. Take an evolutionary biology course. Also perhaps a chemistry course, an introductory hominid fossils (anthropology) course, a philosophy of science course.... and then come back and discuss evolutionary theory.
Reply:Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything you read. Sounds like a hoax.
Reply:Have a look at the images on this link, and tell me the similarities between it and your image. The image you link to, if examined closely, reveals that the parallel lines around the circumference have regular spacing, like stitches. There is also some pixelation or blurring on the top of the sphere, where the emblem would be. What you have, is a cricket ball, painted, or otherwise computer-altered, or a cast of one. The older balls would have fewer lines of stitching, compared to the modern ball, pictured.

What you are perhaps trying to do, is demonstrate how hoaxes can influence beliefs, or you have been duped yourself. Keep believing if you want to, but there is your probable answer.

Is it time to believe in global warming know that it has created an island?

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The US Geological Survey has confirmed its existence with satellite photos, that show it as an integral part of the Greenland coast in 1985, but linked by only a small ice bridge in 2002, and completely separate by the summer of 2005. It is now a striking island of high peaks and rugged rocky slopes plunging steeply to a sea dotted with icebergs.

http://news.independent.co.uk/environmen...

PRE-EMPTIVE RESPONSE TO MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING DENIERS

They will come here with links to youtube videos, editorials (read opinion articles) from political and media websites, copy and pastes from a wikipedia article (about individual scientists against the MAINSTREAM scientific consensus on man made global warming), and propaganda. For example, they will cite an MIT link saying there is global warming in Pluto (trying to convince you its the sun) without mentioning the fact that the scientist cited in the article says it has nothing to do with the sun.

Is it time to believe in global warming know that it has created an island?
I don't disbelieve the measurement of increasing global temperatures.

What *NONE OF YOU* have done...anywhere...even the scientists you lemmings follow because of "consensus"...is prove the percentage of global warming caused by man, and caused by natural variation of the sun. *THAT* is the science you ought to ask for.
Reply:I've yet to see any scientist who can tell conclusively how much man has contributed without using general vague terms. Why do so many who so strongly believe in Global Warming not believe that the Earth just recently came out of a little mini ice age (that's also been proven) in which scientist haven't been able to conclusively say why it occurred.

Something you might consider as well, as fresh water enters the Ocean the salinity of the ocean decreases. It's this salinity that runs the oceans currents that is so critical in our current weather patterns. When this stops (which it will as it has in the past) another ice age will occur (not warming).
Reply:Time will tell....
Reply:Global warming is one thing linking it to human activity is another. I believe in global warming because the Great lakes are the result of a huge glacier melting. Since the lakes are lakes and not Glaciers there must be global warming.

Its not necessarily a bad thing, and most of the previous events of global warming occured well before human activity could have possibly had any effect, I believe it is far more reasonable to assume the current global warming phase is a natural event than to make a leap that all previous global warming episodes were natural and this one time it was caused by humans. After all the ice caps on mars are also receding and they don't drive SUV's there, at least not yet.

Particularly when the loudest voices in this debate seen to have the agenda of using it as an excuse to strip us of freedom.
Reply:Green is good. When Greenland was discovered in the years before SUVs and America, the earth was warm enough for Greenland to be green instead of frozen white like it is now. We need global warming to make Greenland green again. We need more SUVs and more American CO2 to help global warming make Greenland green. Green is good. Global warming will make Greenland green again like when it was discovered. Global warming is good. Help make Greenland green again!
Reply:PEOPLE. with an agenda keep lying about this, and believe if they say it enough, that it will become a fact!

Wrong! There is no Global Warming, and the lies and fabrications that ALL the Scientist, Geologist, etc. agree to it, IS NOTHING BUT MORE LIES!
Reply:Anyone who doesn't believe in global warming is an idiot.

Anyone who believes global warming DEFINITELY is caused mostly by man is an idiot also.
Reply:You know what other glacier melted? Take your pick of any part of the massive sheet of ice that used to cover most of North America or Europe. When did that melt? Before or after human industrialization?

I'm afraid science and logic simply don't support your whole theory.
Reply:Wow, if you just found out about it you are a moron, get an education. Nowadays, this is all they teach in schools, its because of you uneducated and ignorant people that dont know anything about global warming
Reply:so what ?
Reply:you fail to state that just as many if not more prominent scientist are not on board with your assessment. Whether or not it is man made is not the real issue, shouldn't we just accept the fact the earth is warming and the less crap in the air the better.
Reply:Believe what you want to, it will not change reality, and by the time the U.S. population stops bickering among themselves about meaningless trivia, it will all be over.
Reply:Ok how many times have we seen this question? My sister is a geologist and she doesn't buy this crap, so quit assuming that all of the geologists think this, and all of them agree with it. Nobody cares! Get on with your life! There is NO global warming!!
Reply:But...but...but... the Cons said Global Warming was a Myth!
Reply:IT IS A DANGER AND I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUNG FOLKS OUT THERE. i LIVE IN THE ARCTIC AND WE SEE THE DIFFIRENCE. PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF THEIR BUTTS AND WALK AND BICYCLE INSTEAD OF DRIVING ALL THE TIME. i ONLY USE MY CAR WHEN NEEDED. IF I NEED ONLY A FEW THINGS I WALK OR BIKE. CARS ARE NOT ONLY A CAUSE OF POLLUTION, BUT ALSO OBESITY. WANT A GREAT WEIGHT CONTROL SOLUTION TO LOOK GREAT? GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND WALK!!!
Reply:Clearly the Earth is getting warmer. It warms and cools all the time.

Why in the world would anyone think the warming is a man-made phenomenon.

Wake up Al Gore! He's got another issue to make a "documentary" about. What can we do?

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Today the very astute geologist of the U.S. Geological Survey in Pasadena stated that California faces an almost certain risk of being rocked by a strong earthquake by, everyone prepare, Gasp, by, 2037. Al, we need you! California and Earthquakes, This is unbelievable!

Al Help,

What can we do to reduce the threat of Californian Earthquakes?

Wake up Al Gore! He's got another issue to make a "documentary" about. What can we do?
What does his peer reviewed scientific reports say? I mean Dana will not believe the sun is warming us unless he has peer reviewed scientific reports to back that up. So, where is his peer scientific reviewed information. By the way, that Northridge Earthquake didn't occur because I have not seen peer reviewed scientific reports to prove that it did. Where is the scientific consensus on this matter? I think there has to be far more money thrown at this 'problem' and billions and billions of research money before we recognize anything.....

lol
Reply:Keep a couple weeks worth of food and water buried in your backyard away from any structures because the US Government won't be capable of helping you at least until that long.

I've lived in California my entire life and we've been warned since I was a child that "The Big One" could occur any day, so we well know the risks and preparations necessary.
Reply:There isnt much you can do, they are real.

At anytime one could hit.

I use to live there many yrs. after a while you just live with it don't think much abt them.

Get use to the idea that at any moment you might have one no matter where or what time it is.
Reply:Evacuate. If California is too dangerous a place to live, get out while you still can.
Reply:Unfortunately, earthquakes in California are real. Not enough controversy for his documentaries.
Reply:Move to Canada!
Reply:Lol!!!
Reply:don't think anything lol

Arrange these exploration techniques in the most likely order a mining company would use them please?

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I need the following arranged in the most likely order a mining company would use them.

Geochemical survey, study of geological maps, drilling and geophysical survey.

Thankyou very much =)

Arrange these exploration techniques in the most likely order a mining company would use them please?
study of geological maps

geochemical survey

drilling and geophysical survey

teeth

How did you become a left-wing liberal or a right-wing conservative?

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What specifically caused you to go from nonpolitical/nonpartisan to what you are today? What were the influences? Your parents, Rush Limbaugh, your preacher?

For me, it was yahoo message board and facts. Prior to yahoo, I considered myself a Democrat and had a general sense in what I believed in, but I did not become a full fledged anti-con liberal until I visited yahoo. People were very partisan. I considered myself a moderate for a while, but after some time, I gravitated toward liberalism. I did so because one side would say one thing, the other side would say another. To see who was telling the truth I visited third party sites, and suprise, suprise, liberals were usually right.

For example, to this day, conservatives pass around the lie that one volcanic eruption spews out more CO2 then all human activity combined. Check out the U.S. Geological Survey website and it will tell you human activty actually produces more then 150 times more CO2 then all volcanic activity combined

How did you become a left-wing liberal or a right-wing conservative?
For me it was education and a very keen interest in politics.

Before I begin, I should state I'm from Alberta, Canada, and not the United States... so Conservativism and Liberalism may be defined a little differently. In Canada, Liberals are moderates, while New Democrats are left wingers.

In my province, everyone is Conservative. So when I was young, I was also conservative becuase that's all I ever really knew. However, looking into policies I began to question Conservativism a little bit. I studied history and political science, and Native American Studies at two Universities since I was a young man. My studies (which included lots of research and philosophies.. as well as quantitative evidence), convinced me to swtich stances.

Some reasons I disagree with Conservativism... mostly having to do with quantitative evidence:

1) Conservativism tends to leave people behind in society. Cutting social programs and government functions for that matter usually results in privatization and higher actual costs for the most part. This can be seen in degregulation of several industries including airlines, rail, and power in Canada.

2) Due to slashing in social funding, disparity increases. Not since the INdustrial Revoltuion has the Western World seen such disparity growing at such a fast rate. Real wages are dropping, while real inflation is rising. Lots of people are getting left behind.

My own moral judgements would assume that Conservative policies generally are aimed to the "elite" of society, while pretty much ignoring the rest. I belive society is only as strong as it's weakest link. Therefore, I am Liberal.
Reply:The Vietnam conflict did it for me, voted as soon as I turned eighteen. As an Independent I don't consider myself either of your choices.
Reply:You are great proof that free and open debate does stimulate learning. Also, that conservatives are becoming increasingly fascistic and frightening.

In that situation, the only thing in the middle of the road is dead armadillos.
Reply:As soon as I got off my rusty dusty and got a job, started paying taxes I became a conservative.
Reply:You become a left wing liberal when you believe capitalism bites, that everyone else should pay taxes and the government should use that money to solve all your problems.

Your become a right wing conservative when you believe only capitalism can work, the church should guide our personal lives and the government should nearly be eliminated for taking too much of your hard earned wealth.
Reply:Before Bush, I usually voted whichever party I thought had the best candidate. Then the 2000 election and Gore got way more votes....and lost. That did not seem right to me. I listened to more and more bull from that party and the more that happened, the more my heart and mind said that it was wrong. That this war was wrong and that Bush was a blatant liar. I became a total liberal after hearing so much about Iraq and hearing his inflexibility and stubbornness. I realized that it is now a contest of wills. He does not care about the people or what they want. He was "selected" to serve the people but he serves himself. I realized that people are dying daily because he does not have the grace or guts to admit his mistake and the way to fix a mistake is not to do more of it and on a bigger scale. I became totally liberal when i heard about the unaccounted for billions that have just disappeared. Before this, I voted as many republicans as I did democrats. No more tho.....if my vote counts at all, it will not be for any of these self-rightous, lying politicians that don't blink an eye when a soldier dies. I don't know how they sleep at night; The "decider" is upset because Congress seeks to limit his blood bath.....geez, this crap has already lasted longer than WW2 or WW1. Republicans are out of touch with the people and they are also out of touch with reality.
Reply:Believe it or not I got my political views from the music I listend to. While back in the day (more like 7 years ago) I took what they said a little too seriously (Sex Pistols = anarchy) I eventually began to read up on politics a little bit and soon after I started to get my own point of view. I eventually learned that anarachy couldn't work, and soon became a democratic person.

Another factor was my mom. Not that my mom was a liberal, but she was the most hardcore conservative that I have ever met in my entire life. I never stopped hearing about how the republicans are always right and how liberals are so stupid, and just hearing her rant all the time about how great Bush was tore me further away from from the republican side. I didn't even register to vote for the Bush/Kerry election, despite being the first election that I was 18, just so I didn't have to hear from my mother about who I should vote for.

Soon afterword, I started to believe in higher taxes, that the rich can gie up a little more, that we can do more to help this country because we're not doing enough now.
Reply:Most of the influences for my generally-liberal thought came from my parents, but they only took me so far to provide me a framework for my beliefs. I filled in the rest on my own, by talking to friends/strangers/teachers and reading newspapers and participating in (online and offline) discussion groups and message boards. These served to further reinforce most of the positions that I already held, but also to change my mind on a few of them.

The smartest thing my parents ever did was read a newspaper (sometimes a news magazine) with me every day, and ask me to choose an opinion article and discuss it. I would ask them questions on what I didn't understand, and I would tell them what I thought and why, and they would often play the devil's advocate to help me. By doing this, they taught me to see all points of view and break it down into smaller parts, enabling me to think for myself and disseminate facts from opinions.

We do disagree on a number of issues, but thanks to their parenting I can at least defend what I have to say with logic, background, and evidence.

Edit: I also majored in engineering in college and my parents are both pharmacists, but I made the effort to take plenty of diverse courses in other subjects that interested me, including political science and history; I didn't want to spend all day around science nerds (you know the stereotypes are true). I didn't get into message boards until college, but much of my influences in high school also came from history teachers, and I wouldn't have voted for Bush (wasn't 18 for another few months) the first time around.
Reply:I'm republican. My sole belief is that everyone needs to earn what they want no matter what . If you want something don't look to government, work hard and achieve. The only person that can stop you is yourself.
Reply:Im right-wing. I agree w/ libs on things like environment. However, science has disproved the illigetimacy of birth control abortion, and libs are for that. abortion is genocide, which is unacceptable to me as a human. I also think morals do have a place in politics. Politicians must do the right thing, whether it is popular or not. I became a con due to research and my upbringing in a moral family. I dont think everything under the sun should be legalized. I think pork barrell should be reduced in legislation. And the libs loaded the Iraqi withdrawal bill with stuff that had nothing to do with Iraq. I think there is corruoption on both sides, and I hope it will be diminished one day.
Reply:I'm neither, I'm a cranky libertarian. I support the end of welfare and the legalization of drugs so drive both the demopublicans and republicrats nuts.
Reply:my university profesors convinced me to be left wing. and i like people with open minds. i really cant stand the right wing type who are always talking about religion. i also dont like the aggressive types who are pro military and police. they are usually the ones who violate peoples human rights.
Reply:Watergate and growing up in poverty, Watergate taught me I couldn't always trust our national leadership and poverty that was just beginning to get addressed as a national issue (Civil rights movement also had a big impact) I knew that liberalism would become a way of life for me, I'm now 48 own my own business, am an active community volunteer and am proud of the bulk of the work Liberals address in their agenda like anything in life it's not 100% perfect but for my life it's better than what the conservative movement offers

Will Egyptian Antiquities ever allow someone to explore the 'anomalies' found under the paws of the Sphinx?

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As in the geological survey anomalies that have been found in various locations below it.

Will Egyptian Antiquities ever allow someone to explore the 'anomalies' found under the paws of the Sphinx?
I hope so. Its one of the ancient wonders of the world. I would like to know what secrets are hidden under the Sphinx, if any. Could there be something there that might clue us in as to how the Sphinx and the Great Pyramids were built? I would like to know. Its not like there was much in the way of technology back then that would create such precision in such massive architectural works.
Reply:What anomalies? How deep? How were they detected?

If there were any geological anomalies they were probably just earthworks or foundations.
Reply:Good Luck!

Do you think that satellite images on the internet are an invasion of privacy?

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I know that these images were sold by the U.S. Geological Survey to anyone who wanted to buy them, but now that it's free to anyone with access, do you feel even slightly violated knowing that anyone can get a clear close-up satellite image of your home and place of business? I looked up my own home last night and felt a little creeped out by it.

Do you think that satellite images on the internet are an invasion of privacy?
Do you want to live in a cave? I'll bet you have no idea that those images were available to the US govt in the 70s. Did you feel less safe yesterday before you knew that? If you are not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about? I would be more worried about people acually outside my house looking at it.
Reply:Yes I'm well aware that the govt has much more satellite capability. It's not about being caught doing something wrong. It's about the general public who wouldn't see my yard without trespassing unless they were flying. Live in a cave? I don't even know what that has to do with it. Report Abuse

Reply:It doesn't bother me in the least bit. I mean, if you don't give your address out, who cares? And anyone who has your address could just as easily drive by your house. I think I'd rather have people looking at my house on their computer than actually knocking on my door.
Reply:No because the pictures are not up to date or realtime i looked up my house on google earth and found the pictures to be more than 3 yrs old. So i would not call it and invasion of privacy it would be different if i could log on to the net and track a person from a satellite live and in real time this would really creep me out but the average person cannot i`m sure the goverment has this option though.
Reply:Yes I do. But what should worry people are the images that are not on the internet. At least you can see those pictures on the internet. Who gave them permission to photograph private property from a satelite anyway?

Maybe we should paint the words "NO PHOTOGRAPHS! ARIAL AND/OR SATELITE PHOTOGRAPHY OF THIS PROPERTY CONSTITUTES TRESSPASSING." on our roof tops.

Just a thought :)
Reply:the national center for security always have had this technology. I believe it rides on that privacy act and even the chicago police cameras that are posted on almost ever corner here lets us know big brother is watching.
Reply:Yes.

Why do links in news stories only look for more news stories?

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Why do links in news stories only look for more news stories about the linked item, rather than send you to real reasources? For example, a link in a story about an earthquake in Peru is to the US Geological Survey. It would be much more useful to be able to click on the link and go to the USGS web site, rather than have a useless link that looks for more stories about the USGS. Similarly, a link for Peru or Lima in the story would be more useful for people if they would find non-news related items and web sites, rather than just other stories.

Why do links in news stories only look for more news stories?
Most of the news agencies are trying to create the news instead of just reporting it. We are a polarized nation between the Bush haters and the ones who like him. The major newspapers around the country are leftists and many of the talk radio shows are rightists. Each have the ratings to contend with and will say or do anything for those ratings which translate into advertising dollars. Follow the money sonny.
Reply:The question is intended to highlight a deficiency in Yahoo!News functions, not to ask for commentary about news organizations' lack of objectivity. Report Abuse

Reply:There are far more Republican newspapers in our country today than Liberal newspapers. This is because most major newspapers have been bought up by huge Corporations and have benefited from the Corporate tax cuts and other benefits given them by the Bush Administration.

All you have to do is read the Editorial Section of any newspaper to find out what political affiliation it is associated with.

Contrary to what some people say, newspaper reporters do not create stories rather than report them. If they do, they risk exposure as did the famed reporter from the New York Times. There is plenty of material out there to write about. One does not have to invent material.

What people are complaining about is undoubtedly the columnists. A reporter simply reports the news. A columnist can freely write his interpretation of events. Many papers have Op Ed columnists, who write articles containing their opinion of events. Many people do not understand the distinction between the two types of writers.
Reply:There is definitely "spin" going on, but it's not by the left, which for the most part believe in letting everybody have a crack at telling the truth. What obstructs them, obstructs everybody. It's the right wing lunatic fringe that tries to control the media. They want ONLY their message to get out. (Propaganda, not news) Forvever has it been this way.

See: Nixon, Frank Zappa's "Dickie's such an ***hole", "Broadway the Hardway", culture reflects these hypocrisies in a wholesale fashion. This usually earns them emnity from that same Right Wing lunatic fringe, but it doesn't change the truth. Pay attention to who is trying to mute, defund and obliterate who. Moderates believe that everybody gets a voice. The right wing nut jobs believe in their "microphone" being the only one that gets plugged in.

A bigger conspiracy to me is why some people can vote on Iraq news stories and others can't. (It's not my browser, some stories come up just fine....)

I believe that voting is being manipulated in some way to benefit those that believe in fascist expansionist colonialism (also known as allowing us to bleed ourselves to death slowly so Al Queda or whoever doesn't actually have to work or die to defeat us) and to make this God forsaken War look better in Public Opinion Polls than it does.

I can vote on some stories just fine. The ability to access the voting mechnanism has been locked on some stories though.

Very creepy.

I would point out that I try to do try to vote on the quality of the journalism and not the "news" itself. But I don't think very many people do that. It's just my opinion but I believe that 90% of all voting is "shoot the messenger" no matter what the news being reported actually is........

The Pentagon calls it (they invented it but the Internet has exploited it) "Incestuous Amplification". I.E., groups of people clump together and refine ever more "fact absent"

points of view. It can affect both sides, but right now the right wing is riddled with it.

wisdom teeth

Global warming will make the oceans rise 39" and the rise cannot be stopped. Where will we go?

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This rise in sea level will effect San Francisco, New York, Silicon Valley, Kennebunkport, Florida, Texas and that is only in the USA. All this per the Intergovernmental Panel on climate change in Paris, Seth Borenstein of Associated Press, University of Arizona in conjunction with the US Geological Survey, Lawrence Livermore National Lab in California. Is it time to buy beachfront property in Arizona?

Global warming will make the oceans rise 39" and the rise cannot be stopped. Where will we go?
The seas have raised and lowered many times. The ice caps have come and gone many times. The globe has warmed and cooled many times.

The gulf of Mexico coast was about 100 miles south of Dallas. Half of Florida was under water thousands of years ago. We just came along at the wrong time and may be accelerating the change.

The earth is constantly changing very slowly. We may be able to slow it down, but nature has no conscience, and will kill what ever gets in it's way.
Reply:I don't know chicken Little. Where will we go?
Reply:To higher ground.
Reply:sea levels aren't going anywhere. arctic ice is floating, and if it all melts, nothing happens. antarctic ice is on land, and it would take an 80 degree temp increase to melt it. in reality, global warming will cause more ocean evaporation, causing more rain fall. this will make the ice pack in the antarctic thicker, LOWERING sea levels. any of you morons who think the coasts are going to flood, sell me your beach front property for a dollar since it is going to be under water and worthless.......whats that? no sellers???? thats what i thought
Reply:umm hasent happened yet so why would i care?? When i see nemo passing outside my bedroom window then well talk.
Reply:Well, since I live about 600' above sea level, I'll probably stay where I am.
Reply:Just go with the flow. It takes a long time to be really concerned about this issue. So just relax and take your time to do the research for the better and more suitable place for you to move when the time is coming. How about that?
Reply:i live in the bay area near san franisco

i guess we will just have to move inward
Reply:I agree with GABY.
Reply:First, climate change is ALREADY forcing people from their homes in India, Bangladesh, and parts of Oceana.

Second, check the wording on that statement: it doesn't say it can't be stopped, it says it will happen "regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases." That's because at the moment we're still increasing our greenhouse gas emissions. It's not just the CO2 concentration that's increasing, but the rate at which it's increasing is also increasing.

Our politicans are talking in terms of slowing the rate of increase. That's not enough to stop climate change. What we need is not to slow the rate of increase, but to begin to decrease the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere-- and the quicker the better.

That's not to say that if we immediately halted all possible CO2 emissions and allowed trees to absorb what's there that we'd avoid all climate consequences-- they are already upon us. But we'd probably avoid the 39" rise in sea levels that scientists are talking about.

Of course, politicans are too concerned about getting elected and most people are to concerned with comfort to make any real reductions in CO2 emissions. So, in the absence of real change, the scientists are probably right.
Reply:A 39 inch higher sea level will not make Arizona beachfront property. New York and San Francisco are not in danger, but parts of Florida and silicon valley are. So I guess that means the people from silicon valley have to move to San Francisco and the people from Florida have to move to New York. Me, I am safe in Austin, Texas, which is 6,000 inches above sea level. But since it will take 100 years for the assumed 39 inch rise to happen, I won't live to see it anyway.
Reply:Go right ahead, Lex Luthor.
Reply:First of all, I'm not sure if your question is true or not. Sure, the oceans might rise a foot or two while our grand kids or our great grand kids are living, but probably not as much as 39". To answer your question, I would move to ground that's about four or five feet above sea level.
Reply:global warming won't change where you need to live. That's just an urban legend. It will take 100s of years of constant sealevl rising to do that and because global warming isn't human caused, the rise should end well before that
Reply:I live 1,000 feet above sea level.

I'm staying here
Reply:No such thing as global warming. the earth is cyclical, this is just a blip.
Reply:I will stay home. I live in Iowa, the state that will be least affected. For the rest of you, I don't know.
Reply:Let's face it people. If this does happen do

you think there will be enough room for

everybody and room enough for raising crops.

Pasture land for farm animals? Something

has got to give a little.
Reply:Relax. Sea level today is 30cm below levels they were in the 1840's.

The level of the oceans isn't going to change.
Reply:I just bought a sub. Let it come ! I'm going to take 2 blonds,2 red heads and 2 brunettes.

Geological map of midwest pre-civil war?

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WOrking on a paper and really could use a map/ geological survey. Tried a google and a few other things.. help?

Geological map of midwest pre-civil war?
go to www.archivesprints.com
Reply:find it on google